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Who can claim Aristotle?

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Re: Who can claim Aristotle?

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Huxley and Heinlein were born only 13 years apart, so now, over a century later, maybe we can lump them into, if not the same generation, at least the same Zeitgeist. Somewhere I'd read about a fighting-game AI which had access to all of the human player data (so not the spirit, but knowing the joystick inputs would be a good proxy for "pwn the technique") and was unbeatable, so the programmers nerfed it by giving it…

To riff on your wife's grokking, the number of effective participants increases faster than what one would usually expect: there's what you know,what you know what other academics know, and what other academics know you know Ditto for "industry" but there the default data structure (nominally) is ____, so perhaps sophistication is monotonic (not accounting yet for immigration, oligarchal or otherwise psychopathic/imb…

For fog of war:

> "Everything is very simple in industry, but the simplest thing is difficult. These difficulties accumulate and produce a friction which no man can imagine exactly who has not seen production." —not CPGvC

Have you heard Niklaus Wirth's joke about God nerfing academia? (via https://cacm.acm.org/blogcacm/niklaus-wirth-or-the-importanc... )

> On the seventh day of creation God looked at his achievement. He was pretty happy at the result. He started looking at the list of professions and felt good: all —policeman, minister, nurse, street sweeper, interior designer, opera singer, supermarket cashier...— had some advantages and some disadvantages. But then He got to the University Professor row. The Advantages entry was impressive: long holidays, decent salary, you basically get to do what you want, and so on; but the Disadvantages entry was empty! That could not be. For a moment, a cloud obscured His face. He thought and thought and finally His smile came back. What had happened is that He had invented colleagues.

Re: Who can claim Aristotle?

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To riff on your wife's grokking, the number of effective participants increases faster than what one would usually expect: there's what you know,what you know what other academics know, and what other academics know you know Ditto for "industry" but there the default data structure (nominally) is ____, so perhaps sophistication is monotonic (not accounting yet for immigration, oligarchal or otherwise psychopathic/imb…

For fog of war: > " Everything is very simple in industry, but the simplest thing is difficult. These difficulties accumulate and produce a friction which no man can imagine exactly who has not seen production. " —not CPGvC Have you heard Niklaus Wirth's joke about God nerfing academia? (via https://cacm.acm.org/blogcacm/niklaus-wirth-or-the-importanc... ) > On the seventh day of creation God looked at his achievemen…

3F's I've been mulling about while mucking about with VR triages (Or, trust is the sword that hypernormal&weird (mandies&mechies?) cleaves?)

  Fooser
  Friend
  Fcolleague
The thing that has been low-key disturbing me about YC is one gets creeped out both as users AAND friends of YC founders. (it's a simple case of not paying enough attn to the Mandala side of things, I wonder?) Clearly the inner circle is of Fcolleagues..

(dang seems dangdy af which makes me wonder as well)

(Aside: as I see it they missed the possible point SPJ made for HW to be mandala oriented because he cared about SW; rocks, smoothed by friction, have a special place in his heart)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5906365

Ah ha maybe maybe not For some profs outside CS (but not Rainer I guess) the list includes (grad) students

If the unharvestable part of friction is called entropy, disproportionately produced by the lowest entropy aspects..

https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/manufacturing-is-a-war-now

>redistribution

It will take a long time for piners for noah to get that their enemies trust their gov (& maybe even one another),

To repeat your venn in words "all you need to solidarify around is freedom+cash"?

Re: Who can claim Aristotle?

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The setup of opposing forces leads one to think in terms of entropy ("the fog of war", the manifold of possible mistakes, etc etc).. Then there's that story about the break even point between French and Mamluks iirc? (And what was the break even point between LGA and the Coalition?) Somewhere in between we might characterize tech debt; rococo doesn't turn to rubble overnight, & most of it is still around. Or maybe th…

> There's no built-in payoff for complexity (or for making things complex). Says the hideously (when compared to single-celled organisms) complicated h sap. Then again, I think social darwinists ought to admit that it's the single-celled organisms who have the fitness they claim to be looking for?

Vonnegut has admitted it?

Re: Who can claim Aristotle?

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For fog of war: > " Everything is very simple in industry, but the simplest thing is difficult. These difficulties accumulate and produce a friction which no man can imagine exactly who has not seen production. " —not CPGvC Have you heard Niklaus Wirth's joke about God nerfing academia? (via https://cacm.acm.org/blogcacm/niklaus-wirth-or-the-importanc... ) > On the seventh day of creation God looked at his achievemen…

3F's I've been mulling about while mucking about with VR triages (Or, trust is the sword that hypernormal&weird (mandies&mechies?) cleaves?) Fooser Friend Fcolleague The thing that has been low-key disturbing me about YC is one gets creeped out both as users AAND friends of YC founders. (it's a simple case of not paying enough attn to the Mandala side of things, I wonder?) Clearly the inner circle is of Fcolleagues..…

Was it Pareto or Orwell or someone else who had claimed that every organisation eventually develops an informal inner circle, just due to the limitations of time and socialising? Even the consensus-deciding Quakers have "weighty friends". Note that Jo Freeman certainly dealt with the phenomenon, pointing out that the 1970s-and-currently best known antidote is making decision-making structure and memberships explicit.

(non-advertiser supported sport has a similar problem: if a country wishes to support elite full-time athletes, either a discipline has to have an affluent and widespread group of amateurs who take lessons and clinics, or it has to be able to hide the elite sport budget within the military or police structures)

Heh, now water can crash, or it can flow. I just had a vision of one possible future in which there's an entire generation of chinese "lying flat" at their country houses (furnished with 筆、墨、紙、硯, or at least their digital equivalents?), while there's an entire generation of americans (legally-at-will) working 996 in their manufacturing jobs...

(and speaking of jobs: there's about half a billion years of stratigraphy, before the oldest still-extant sequences, which we're missing and even the most curious geologist probably never can recover)

> I returned, and saw under the sun, that eternity is not to the igneous, nor the metamorphic, nor yet to sedimentary layers; but time and chance happeneth to them all. —not Kohelet 9:11

Lagniappe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=To7pOVAQ54Y

Re: Who can claim Aristotle?

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3F's I've been mulling about while mucking about with VR triages (Or, trust is the sword that hypernormal&weird (mandies&mechies?) cleaves?) Fooser Friend Fcolleague The thing that has been low-key disturbing me about YC is one gets creeped out both as users AAND friends of YC founders. (it's a simple case of not paying enough attn to the Mandala side of things, I wonder?) Clearly the inner circle is of Fcolleagues..…

Was it Pareto or Orwell or someone else who had claimed that every organisation eventually develops an informal inner circle, just due to the limitations of time and socialising? Even the consensus-deciding Quakers have "weighty friends". Note that Jo Freeman certainly dealt with the phenomenon, pointing out that the 1970s-and-currently best known antidote is making decision-making structure and memberships explicit.…

This (and other vids) looks so leisurely that you should immediately suspect the sprezzaturistas of being CCP-sponsored:

https://youtu.be/qafzuXnaXNg

(Re: elite sports of the technological societies: are back(-ish) to the moksha-samsara dynamic? Let's say we don't want to invoke TK just yet)

One wonders why jobs was also obsessed with paintings and zen gardens.. the quotes might be polished but IRL the substrata (objective-C? PowerPC?) get cleaned out after barely a generation?

Re: Who can claim Aristotle?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Was it Pareto or Orwell or someone else who had claimed that every organisation eventually develops an informal inner circle, just due to the limitations of time and socialising? Even the consensus-deciding Quakers have "weighty friends". Note that Jo Freeman certainly dealt with the phenomenon, pointing out that the 1970s-and-currently best known antidote is making decision-making structure and memberships explicit.…

This (and other vids) looks so leisurely that you should immediately suspect the sprezzaturistas of being CCP-sponsored: https://youtu.be/qafzuXnaXNg (Re: elite sports of the technological societies: are back(-ish) to the moksha-samsara dynamic? Let's say we don't want to invoke TK just yet) One wonders why jobs was also obsessed with paintings and zen gardens.. the quotes might be polished but IRL the substrata (obj…

trimming the ink sticks reminded me of nothing so much as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBb9O-aW4zI !

> IRL the substrata (objective-C? PowerPC?) get cleaned out

real artists ship, and shipping (like cherry blossoming) is ephemeral?

  花の雲 鐘は上野か 浅草か

Re: Who can claim Aristotle?

#97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This (and other vids) looks so leisurely that you should immediately suspect the sprezzaturistas of being CCP-sponsored: https://youtu.be/qafzuXnaXNg (Re: elite sports of the technological societies: are back(-ish) to the moksha-samsara dynamic? Let's say we don't want to invoke TK just yet) One wonders why jobs was also obsessed with paintings and zen gardens.. the quotes might be polished but IRL the substrata (obj…

trimming the ink sticks reminded me of nothing so much as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBb9O-aW4zI ! > IRL the substrata (objective-C? PowerPC?) get cleaned out real artists ship, and shipping (like cherry blossoming) is ephemeral? 花の雲 鐘は上野か 浅草か

But polished quotes can become immortal even if sophistrical

I would not say taleb (polished public persona) was not even wrong. Complexity pays off when you have an open system. In academia, the complexity pays off to the cloister within the cloister? In arts/industry.. the boundaries are more porous so you can afford to let/can't help having the losers partake in the complexity.

a 5-year-old pack of yoghurt. Has the consistency and flavour of chalk. Thawed mammoth, otoh...

Edit: that may explain which Jacobsian mode of survival becomes dominant. Next up, mode of trust?

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Mapping-leadership-cultu...

https://old.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/wowswa/top...

Re: Who can claim Aristotle?

#98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This (and other vids) looks so leisurely that you should immediately suspect the sprezzaturistas of being CCP-sponsored: https://youtu.be/qafzuXnaXNg (Re: elite sports of the technological societies: are back(-ish) to the moksha-samsara dynamic? Let's say we don't want to invoke TK just yet) One wonders why jobs was also obsessed with paintings and zen gardens.. the quotes might be polished but IRL the substrata (obj…

trimming the ink sticks reminded me of nothing so much as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBb9O-aW4zI ! > IRL the substrata (objective-C? PowerPC?) get cleaned out real artists ship, and shipping (like cherry blossoming) is ephemeral? 花の雲 鐘は上野か 浅草か

>Was it Pareto or Orwell or someone else who had claimed that every organisation eventually develops an informal inner circle

the pervasion of this thought-killer amongst x-percenters makes me indignantly curious about what stuff the actual inner-circlers actually spend their supposedly limited attention on.. shipping?

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As tlb pointed out, since it's hard to distinguish meretocrats from meritocrats, "RAS" may not apply..

Re: Who can claim Aristotle?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

trimming the ink sticks reminded me of nothing so much as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBb9O-aW4zI ! > IRL the substrata (objective-C? PowerPC?) get cleaned out real artists ship, and shipping (like cherry blossoming) is ephemeral? 花の雲 鐘は上野か 浅草か

But polished quotes can become immortal even if sophistrical I would not say taleb (polished public persona) was not even wrong. Complexity pays off when you have an open system. In academia, the complexity pays off to the cloister within the cloister? In arts/industry.. the boundaries are more porous so you can afford to let/can't help having the losers partake in the complexity. a 5-year-old pack of yoghurt. Has th…

Ottosson's first figure (not linkable, alas?) looks suspiciously, on either branch, like a Thomian catastrophe (a cubic going from one [stable] to three [2 stable, 1 unstable] intercepts).

Interesting that the Old Country shows up as heavily "task-based" trust. I wonder if it could move towards becoming a higher-trust society if enough people were convinced that living together in a civilised manner were a worthy, err, I mean profitable, background task?

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