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London's 850-year-old food markets to close

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Re: London's 850-year-old food markets to close

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When money is all that matters, it makes sense (to first order) to push out everything that seems to lose money and is purely cultural. This is the machine winning. To second order(s) and above, erasing culture reduces the desire of folks to live and prosper in the first place.

It also feels like a result of housing/property values being so high. When a block of flats can sell for £100m (and bring in council tax money), why keep markets or build libraries. It's sad.

Re: London's 850-year-old food markets to close

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It's interesting to see how cities are handling the increasing bifurcation of wholesale and retail markets. In Sydney, the current Fish Market is a grotty assemblage of small warehouses in what's now a prime waterfront location of the city that has become an unlikely tourist attraction, but still serves the wholesale market. They're building a new one right next to it that looks far nicer, leaves tourists much less a…

If anyone is looking for a good read, there's a great book called Arcadia, which revolves around this trend of traditional city food markets being supplanted by upscale hipster traps.

Re: London's 850-year-old food markets to close

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This is why I'm distrustful towards any initiatives aiming to make a city "more liveable for humans". First they entice you with a vision of a place where everything is within walking distance, then they do this.

What's more liveable and walking-distance than a market within walking distance from where you live? This has nothing to do with urbanism, this is purely capitalistic efficiency.

Re: London's 850-year-old food markets to close

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Statement from the City of London Corporation which is closing them down: > Chris Hayward, policy chairman of the City of London Corporation, said the > decision represented a "positive new chapter" for the markets as it "empowers > traders to build a sustainable future in premises that align with their > long-term business goals". This is a great statement. Like firing people to free them up to find jobs that better…

Who doesn’t love corporate bullshit?

the ruling comes from up-on-high the mayor of London who does have some oversight over the city of london, and the transit of traders that utilise the market.

Gotta hit those eco numbers.

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If this market was in Stoke or Hull there would be a national outcry. Farage would be all over it like a rash.

https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/stoke-on-trent-news/cou...

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-new...

Re: London's 850-year-old food markets to close

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post #82

This is why I'm distrustful towards any initiatives aiming to make a city "more liveable for humans". First they entice you with a vision of a place where everything is within walking distance, then they do this.

What's more liveable and walking-distance than a market within walking distance from where you live? This has nothing to do with urbanism, this is purely capitalistic efficiency.

Please read my comment again.

I'm complaining about places to go within walking distance, such as this market, being removed despite declarations from the city authorities that they're making the place more liveable.

Re: London's 850-year-old food markets to close

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Real estate developer looking to build build flats for Chinese and Russian investors. Gotta love the grift

Oh no, that'd be awful...but good news, I just looked into it, no China/Russia investors! It's a real estate developer working with the people to get a bunch of units built to ease a historic shortage. Huzzah!

There is no way in hell anything built there will be for normal people. That area is on the doorstep of the City, with excellent connections, it’s like the centre of a compass transport wise. When completed, you can bet it will be 2m+ for a shoebox sized apartment, with yearly fees that would swallow any normal persons salary.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who doesn’t love corporate bullshit?

the ruling comes from up-on-high the mayor of London who does have some oversight over the city of london, and the transit of traders that utilise the market. Gotta hit those eco numbers.

The Mayor of London doesn't have any power over the City of London Corporation. They are completely separate authorities.

The Corporation is essentially a unitary/borough-tier local authority, overseeing the "square mile" centre of the city, and has a council of elected councilmen. It provides housing, education, social services, street cleaning, markets etc for a small area of central London, and has existed since time immemorial.

The Mayor's remit, which has only existed since the year 2000, covers the whole 600-square mile area of Greater London, and provides strategic services like transport, strategic planning, fire and rescue, and the metropolitan police.

The Mayor of London wouldn't have had any involvement in this at all.

Re: London's 850-year-old food markets to close

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Preserving the irreplaceable value of ..." works great as a personal motivation or a mission statement, but terribly as an explicit rule. It's the same problem as carbon offsets - if there's a formula for converting intangible values into cold hard cash, people will exploit the definition of the intangibles to make money.

This is largely because we’ve built a philosophy that eschews any concept of a collective or a people or a culture or a future.

Not every country is like this
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