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Re: Warp terminal – no more login required

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Post by cadamsau »

Couple of thoughts on Warp's feature for documentation of command line args... seems doable as open source.

Hypothetically if an LSP-server existed for command line args, it could be integrated at the shell prompt to create an autocomplete popover. Even cooler, generating LSP syntax should be doable en masse as an LLM can read every single man page in one pass and add what it learns to the supported syntax.

And for generating entire commands it's possible to create a desktop app: I'm imagining it having a text field to type what you need ("a command to double the speed of a video") and then it'd:

1. generate the command ("ffmpeg -i input.mp4 -vf "setpts=2*PTS" -c:v libx264 output.mp4"

2. copy the command to clipboard

3. display an explanation of each part of the command and what it does (raw markdown from the model should be fine)

4 (optional togglable preference setting) after paste is detected, restore previous clipboard content

This app could be created really fast now LLMs can code for us. And the command line generation could be done fully locally with ollama.

Re: Warp terminal – no more login required

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Post by dismalaf »

eviks wrote: post #79
dismalaf wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Western config takes like 2 seconds. And out of the box it's pretty, easy to use and fast. Also let's be real. All the default terminals are great and fast enough for typical use cases, the only ones that really care about GPU accelerated terminals are the ones that use editors in the terminal, so they're going to be customizing everything anyway.

The config is in lua, so the potential for sinking time into customization is much higher

The potential is there for sure, but to change font, theme, window decorations and most other "basic" configuration is 1 line apiece. But yeah, Lua is a full programming language so you could go off the deep end. But default behaviour is so good I doubt most people will spend more than 5 minutes customizing it.

Re: Warp terminal – no more login required

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Post by jakebasile »

zachlloyd wrote: post #89
jakebasile wrote: post #4

I remember seeing this terminal emulator, deciding to give it a shot to see what the deal is, and being asked to sign in. I have never uninstalled a program faster in my life. I think I'll just stick to iTerm.

fair criticism, and this is the reason we removed the login requirement. just to clarify though, the point of the login is that we have features that cost money to provide like AI and collaboration, not anything more nefarious, but i get that it's a new behavior and reasonable devs might not like it.

I appreciate that you've changed it and truly wish you luck! An alternative that would've have made me immediately uninstall would be to just block those account-requiring features behind a login. Not even letting me get a local Zsh prompt without logging in was too much.

Re: Warp terminal – no more login required

#96

Post by dizhn »

skrtskrt wrote: post #64
dizhn wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe wezterm has that feature already. (Like there anything it doesn't have. :) )

Interesting, I'll have to check it out. I looked at alacritty but I really like using terminal tabs and the alacritty dev is really really against them and I found the dev's attitude to be more than a bit abrasive. Not that Kovid (kitty's dev) does not come off the same way sometimes, but I tend to agree with Kovid a lot more.

Do check out wezterm. I didn't want to go into comparing developers but wez the main developer is a huge reason I prefer wezterm. They have tabs, panes, sessions, a mux implementation among many many other features.

Re: Warp terminal – no more login required

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Post by magic_smoke_ee »

20wenty wrote: post #11

The damage is done. You can't overthrow the king (whether you pledge fealty to iTerm2, PowerShell/WSL, Putty, Hyper ... ) if you have to sign up to get past the castle gates. And in the two years it took to remove the signup, the townsfolk have realized their kings are good enough for what they want to do anyway.

Yeap.

Deal breaker: I do not like normalizing the deviancy of sending shell input to a third party. F opt-out telemetry and a "trust us" privacy policy. They're pressured to deliver maximum profits in a short time, and having to use the internet to use your shell and paying for the privilege of handing over private work is absolutely absurd. It could all, and will likely, as most startups go, shutdown at some point in the future and then users will likely be left with nothing. It's a signal there's too much VC money available.

Fundamental error: It's an attempt to innovate in a crowded category inappropriately, like trying to make a physical proxy "phone" or security device that could've been an app, it's too tied to an app. It could've been reduced to a multi-shell, shell-oriented hook that would've been inherently multi-platform without the need for yet another desktop app and would've been portable to other environments without the effort or expense.

Re: Warp terminal – no more login required

#98

Post by magic_smoke_ee »

aaomidi wrote: post #35
aimazon wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like it. I pay for it. I expect it’ll go to shit when the money tap is turned off but I’m enjoying it while I can. I’d rather see a bunch of VC money subsidise destined-to-fail developer tool businesses than… not, because the technical founders of these companies are typically using VC money to pay for things they want to make and at least some of it is open-source. Warp is good, it’s a step up from iterm for peopl…

$25/month is “basically free”?

Exactly. Not to me. Fuck subscriptions for every little thing without ownership. If BMW want to sell a license for heated seats or automatic headlight wipers, more power to them, but count me out.

Re: Warp terminal – no more login required

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Post by magic_smoke_ee »

talldayo wrote: post #55
aimazon wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

in the context of software engineering, yes.

I... it's a terminal. Free and completely functional alternatives have existed since xTerm hit public release back in the '80s. Am I going insane? Why would you pay for this unless you have a workplace humiliation fetish?

It's the Starbucks over-commodification of features, apps, and ordinary products to extract money from a sliver of rich people and an increasingly impoverished nation where wages for the bottom 75% have been flat for 40 years while real costs as proportion of income have skyrocketed, including education and housing. There's a ~60% chance of recession around Feb 2025 and that means lots more tech layoffs and pullback in dev tool spending. The point is that such a controversial, narrow rented service in a crowded category competing with FOSS apps for such a small addressable market appears risky and unreasonable.

Re: Warp terminal – no more login required

#100

Post by ericrallen »

ghusto wrote: post #58
jakebasile wrote: post #4

I remember seeing this terminal emulator, deciding to give it a shot to see what the deal is, and being asked to sign in. I have never uninstalled a program faster in my life. I think I'll just stick to iTerm.

Never understood why people use iTerm. I know back in the day it was because of the lack of tabs in Terminal.app, but tabs were added long ago and tmux was always a better option for that kind of functionality anyway. Genuinely curious because I feel like I'm missing something. I tried it again a while ago and still couldn't see anything I couldn't already do.

I’m not sure if other terminals support this feature[0] because iTerm was the first one I discovered with it and I haven’t tested all of them yet, but I use it for the global, Quake-style[1] terminal that slides down from the top of my screen as an overlay on top of whatever I’m doing.

[0]: https://babbagefiles.xyz/quake-drop-down-terminal-history/

[1]: https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/18380429971797580...

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