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And social media didn't exist
Usenet, BBSs, mailing lists etc. are social media
Those are very social places but I would classify them as not social media because real names / identities weren't attached.
Bluesky is on the verge of overtaking Threads in all the ways that matter
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Re: Bluesky is on the verge of overtaking Threads in all the ways that matter
#92Threads has a massive problem in that it recruits its users from Instagram (there are others but primarily its still a branch of Instagram) which is the domain of AI generated slop and people I actually know in real life. The whole point of the twitter style firehose is to be not be either of those things. Bluesky honestly probably has a decent shot but I think its still attracting some hyper-orthodox, censorious, th…
I think the Bluesky crowd will probably chill out with time, but right now if you don’t readily use the block feature there you’re going to have your feed and notifications peppered with the same trolls that are currently making X inhospitable. The majority of users getting blocked aren’t interested in actual discourse, they’re just there to get a rise out of people. It’s difficult to envision any social network stay…
> inevitable
I don't get any trolls on either platform. I guess I'm too boring :)
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> Never had or seen a death threat. Ever wonder if you might be drawing all of that negative attention yourself. It's hard to admit that you might be the problem. This is victim blaming. It’s wrong and it has no place here or anywhere.
The idea that you cannot possibly be at all responsible in any way for any of the bad things that happen to you is one of the most ridiculous assertions I come across on a regular basis. Are there cases where you bear 0% of the blame for what misfortune occurs? Of course! If someone shoots a gun up in the air from a mile away and the bullet comes screaming through the window and hits you, you bear no responsibility at all for being the "victim". But if you ride choose to ride the subway back and forth across the Bronx at 3 am every night with big gold chains visibly dangling around your neck, you absolutely deserve some of the blame for being the "victim" when you get mugged! It is incumbent upon every one of us to understand that when you engage with the environment and/or other people, that your words and actions have an influence and an effect. Responsibility is not a zero sum game. Just because the guy who mugs you bears 100% responsibility for being a violent criminal does not mean you are completely absolved from all responsibility after having exercise truly terrible judgement (or no judgement at all).
I am not familiar with the original OP, but anyone who goes around having interactions in a confrontational style should expect to be confronted, along with all of the other things that come along with confrontations. Pretending that none of us have any agency in any of the bad things that happen to us because we are "victims" is a silly trope that is far too common.
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> Never had or seen a death threat. Ever wonder if you might be drawing all of that negative attention yourself. It's hard to admit that you might be the problem. This is victim blaming. It’s wrong and it has no place here or anywhere.
First you need to identify a victim before you can come to their rescue. Is the parent poster a victim? Are the people he taunts into death threats his victims? Am I a victim of your verbal attack. Are you a victim because you read something and reacted?
You don’t know what the parent posted. I didn’t attack you.
You shared your own irrelevant experience which undermines the experience of being threatened. You then used that irrelevant experience to assume with no information that these threats were deserved.
You could have instead asked what was posted and then offered your advice if it was warranted. But what post or posts justify graphic death threats?
Re: Bluesky is on the verge of overtaking Threads in all the ways that matter
#95Twitter does not need a replacement. There seem to be a popular opinion that it does, but it's not something people are willing to act on. It's a better app than it used to be, overall.
You can't view Tweets without being signed in.
API access is banned. Third party apps are banned.
A verification badge used to signal trustworthiness, now it can be bought.
All your posts are being used to train an AI model without the ability to opt out.
Every second Tweet is a crypto scam.
How exactly is the experience better than before?
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All politics aside (not a minor point for many), Twitter has been made much worse IMHO in the Musk era. They de-prioritize links, prevent 3rd party apps, closed the API, and blocked access for non-logged-in viewing. And a smaller meta-point: changed from an iconic name to a simple non-informative letter (Besides Google and maybe Uber, who have added a popular verb to the lexicon?)
I feel this is a downside only to a particular bunch. For most people, Twitter is doing better than ever. Community notes are amazing and innovative and should be adopted by every social media platform. X feels legitimately more fun than most other apps. Plus, at this point, I think a solid portion of people have been banned from social media apps. You can't exile your way towards whatever ideal society you want. The…
Community notes was designed, implemented and released before the acquisition. Only the name is new. Previously it was called birdwatch.
Re: Bluesky is on the verge of overtaking Threads in all the ways that matter
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And social media didn't exist
Usenet, BBSs, mailing lists etc. are social media
Not in the modern sense.
Those mediums do not have algorithms, feeds, followers, profiles, influencers, likes, or any features that many people point to as the toxic aspects of pretty much every commercial social media site of the last decade.
I’d say livejournal was the tipping point where the internet became very self-centered and your value in the platform was measured by how much engagement you were able to get.
Up until that point, in a world before blogs, social sites were mostly centered around shared interests and communities would aggressively police off topic content
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>> It's inevitable… > Yes and no. Yes and yes. The right and the left don't even speak the same language. I'm not a native English speaker and half the time I don't even understand what the left are even saying. Examples: > regress into an id-dominated state of hyper-reality > what can be, unburdened by what has been What does that even mean? People keep calling the right stupid, but at least everybody can understand…
>What does that even mean?
"id-dominated state" refers to the psychological "id" basically being primal. "A person who is dominated by their id might be narcissistic and impulsive" I don't blame you for not getting this part, but it is a common psychological theory.
>What can be unburdened by what has been
Well, yea. If you take a fragment of a sentence out, it is going to be confusing.
The full quote is on the lines of "My mother raised me to see what could be, unburdened by what has been" i.e. to look at accomplishing at the highest possibilities without the baggage of traditional limitations
Reading it now and in context, its a normal impactful thought. But the right took a cut off the middle... like if I quoted you and said "a native English speaker and half the time" a missing phrase will obviously make it confusing
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> Never had or seen a death threat. Ever wonder if you might be drawing all of that negative attention yourself. It's hard to admit that you might be the problem. This is victim blaming. It’s wrong and it has no place here or anywhere.
The idea that you cannot possibly be at all responsible in any way for any of the bad things that happen to you is one of the most ridiculous assertions I come across on a regular basis. Are there cases where you bear 0% of the blame for what misfortune occurs? Of course! If someone shoots a gun up in the air from a mile away and the bullet comes screaming through the window and hits you, you bear no responsibility a…
Of course we can be responsible for bad things that happen to us. We might also not be responsible. Without knowledge of what was posted we can’t determine what is true in this case. But making the assumption that it is deserved is unreasonable.
> But if you ride choose to ride the subway back and forth across the Bronx at 3 am every night with big gold chains visibly dangling around your neck, you absolutely deserve some of the blame for being the "victim" when you get mugged!
Actually no, wearing gold chains and riding the subway are not crimes. This is just more victim blaming.
A better example would be the mugger is responsible for their subsequent arrest and imprisonment after mugging someone.
> I am not familiar with the original OP, but anyone who goes around having interactions in a confrontational style should expect to be confronted, along with all of the other things that come along with confrontations.
Right, you don’t know, so you’re just assuming that’s relevant here. You have no reason to believe graphic death threats were warranted. Personally I can’t imagine a post that would justify such death threats.
> Pretending that none of us have any agency in any of the bad things that happen to us because we are "victims" is a silly trope that is far too common.
Who is pretending this? You have fabricated this position.
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>> It's inevitable… > Yes and no. Yes and yes. The right and the left don't even speak the same language. I'm not a native English speaker and half the time I don't even understand what the left are even saying. Examples: > regress into an id-dominated state of hyper-reality > what can be, unburdened by what has been What does that even mean? People keep calling the right stupid, but at least everybody can understand…
I think one example of hyperreality(1) would be a person seeing a phrase that they don’t immediately understand and deciding “this is how ‘the left’, a real and cohesive/consistent group, talks” 1 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperreality
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