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Re: Charset="WTF-8"

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Post by notanote »

ValentinA23 wrote: post #52
croes wrote: post #3

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Is name validation even possible?

Don't validate names, use transliteration to make them safe for postal services (or whatever). In SQL this is COLLATE, in the command line you can use uconv: >echo "'Lódź'" | uconv -f "UTF-8" -t "UTF-8" -x "Latin-ASCII" >'Lodz'

The name of the city has the L with stroke (pronounced as a W), so it’s Łódź.

Re: Charset="WTF-8"

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Post by Muromec »

ryandrake wrote: post #13
armada651 wrote: post #4

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Yes, it is essential when you want to avoid doing business with customers who have invalid names.

You joke, but when a customer wants to give your company their money, it is our duty as developers to make sure their names are valid . That is so business critical!

It's not just business necrssary, it's also mandatory to do rigjt under gdpr

Re: Charset="WTF-8"

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Post by poincaredisk »

ValentinA23 wrote: post #52
croes wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is name validation even possible?

Don't validate names, use transliteration to make them safe for postal services (or whatever). In SQL this is COLLATE, in the command line you can use uconv: >echo "'Lódź'" | uconv -f "UTF-8" -t "UTF-8" -x "Latin-ASCII" >'Lodz'

If I ever make my own customer facing product with registration, I'm rejecting names with 'v', 'x' and 'q'. After all, these characters don't exist in my language, and foreign people can always transliterate them to 'w', 'ks' or 'ku' if they have names with weird characters.

Re: Charset="WTF-8"

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Post by poincaredisk »

notanote wrote: post #91
ValentinA23 wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't validate names, use transliteration to make them safe for postal services (or whatever). In SQL this is COLLATE, in the command line you can use uconv: >echo "'Lódź'" | uconv -f "UTF-8" -t "UTF-8" -x "Latin-ASCII" >'Lodz'

The name of the city has the L with stroke (pronounced as a W), so it’s Łódź.

And the transliteration in this case is so far from the original that it's barely recognisable for me (three out of four characters are different and as a native I perceive Ł as a fully separate character, not as a funny variation of L)

Re: Charset="WTF-8"

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Post by Macha »

pridkett wrote: post #29
arsome wrote: post #20

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name.Length > 0 is probably pretty safe.

That only works if you’re concatenating the first and last name fields. Some people have no last name and thus would fail this validation if the system had fields for first and last name.

Honestly I wish we could just abolish first and last name fields and replace them with a single free text name field since there's so many edge cases where first and last is an oversimplification that leads to errors. Unfortunately we have to interact with external systems that themselves insist on first and last name fields, and pushing it to the user to decide which is part of what name is wrong less often than string.split, so we're forced to become part of the problem.

Re: Charset="WTF-8"

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Post by postepowanieadm »

xigoi wrote: post #80
ginko wrote: post #49

Under GDPR you have the legal right for your name to be stored and processed with the correct spelling in the EU. https://gdprhub.eu/index.php?title=Court_of_Appeal_of_Brusse...

This seems to only apply to banks.

No, anywhere where your name is used.

Re: Charset="WTF-8"

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Post by kens »

shash wrote: post #53
crazygringo wrote: post #14

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If you just use the {Alphabetic} Unicode character class (100K code points), together with a space, hyphen, and maybe comma, that might get you close. It includes diacritics. I'm curious if anyone can think of any other non-alphabetic characters used in legal names around the world, in other scripts? I wondered about numbers, but the most famous example of that has been overturned: "Originally named X Æ A-12, the chi…

There’s this individual’s name which involves a clock sound: Nǃxau ǂToma[1] [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%25C7%2583xau_%C7%82Toma

> There’s this individual’s name which involves a clock sound: Nǃxau ǂToma

I was extremely puzzled until I realized you meant a click sound, not a clock sound. Adding to my confusion, the vintage IBM 1401 computer uses ǂ as a record mark character.

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