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Because places of worship in Christianity are usually called churches and Christianity is the most common religion in the United States. So if I was going to pick a single word used to represent places of worship when describing such in the United States, “churches” would be a good choice.
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Colorado scrambles to change voting-system passwords after accidental leak
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#93The Indian Voting Machines are the answer. No operating system, no passwords, no connections, no bruteforcing anything, system on a chip, so widely distributed devices that hacking even a few of them is challenging, etc. The US voting machines are just waiting to be hacked, just a matter of when, not if.
I think random, serialized paper ballots are the way to go. When the polls close you know the serial numbers of every vote cast, so no new serial numbers should be added to that unless a very good reason. Keep them or destroy them afterwards is another issue, but it's a step in the right direction. I have some distrust in the American voting system, first with the computerized systems, but also that federal elections…
Colorado ballot envelopes already have a bar code - essentially your "serial number".
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills because everyone who thinks there's widespread election fraud seems to not know anything about how elections work.
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Which do you suppose is more likely... A) There was a voting machine that had a miscalibrated touchscreen that will be corrected before election day. B) An evil democrat conspiracy is going to steal the election in Kentucky
These were deployed machines used in early voting. The amount of willingness to excuse incompetency here is unbelievable.
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>I hear some people say "but we use paper ballots". Then why do you have a BIOS password? If it's all paper where does the computer fit in? All of this is honest curiosity, I'm not sure how the voting system works. Not sure about Colorado specifically, but in many jurisdictions voters mark paper ballots, which go into a machine to be tabulated, and are finally deposited into a box for safe keeping/future recounts.
You get to feed the ballot into the (literal) black box yourself, it beeps and tells you your vote has been recorded. What did it record? Who knows?
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#97Paper ballots have very boring failure modes and need no explanation or technical support. When you see a system more complex than paper ballots, know that the additions are not there on your behalf .
(Side note: I also believe that hand-counting of ballots can be tedious, and humans performing tedious, repetitive tasks are prone to error. See [1].)
[1]: https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/hand...
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Another example of "Everything looks suspicious when you don’t know how anything works."[0] Mailed ballots are verified against voter registrations and signatures are checked against the signature on file. This woman with a bunch of ballots for former residents of her apartment would gain essentially nothing and open herself to serious criminal penalties if she tried to vote as anyone except herself. [0] https://www.…
It also includes some misinformation, saying " signature verification is a critical part of ensuring that only valid ballots from eligible voters get counted" ... while many states, including Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, North Carolina, and Georgia, do not verify signatures.
https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/table-14-how-st...
Another example of "Nothing looks suspicious when your eyes are closed"?
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>There were a lot of irregularities in 2020. Source? I thought all the election fraud lawsuits/investigations for the 2020 election basically went nowhere?
For lack of standing or lack of ability to relieve yes. Courts aren't going to question a presidential election. That doesn't mean we can't look at the videos of observers being banned, the facts of now-declared-illegal extra-legislative policy changes, the timings of various ballot drops etc. Opinions aren't formed on court cases. That's why in 2020, more than half of Democrats thought the election was irregular. It…
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_v._Gore
>That doesn't mean we can't look at the videos of observers being banned, the facts of now-declared-illegal extra-legislative policy changes, the timings of various ballot drops etc.
My impression is that there were a bunch of "this seems sus" allegations, but all the popular ones have been discredited. What are the most credible examples (ie. of actual malfeasance going on, rather than merely "this seems sus") that you can provide?
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Which do you suppose is more likely... A) There was a voting machine that had a miscalibrated touchscreen that will be corrected before election day. B) An evil democrat conspiracy is going to steal the election in Kentucky
Are you saying the video was made by an election worker prepping machines in a back room? These were deployed machines used in early voting. The amount of willingness to excuse incompetency here is unbelievable.
> Laurel County Clerk Tony Brown addressed the issue in a statement, saying the machine was temporarily taken out of service while an investigator from the Attorney General's Office was called to inspect the machine. Investigators tried to recreate the anomaly and were able to do so after spending few minutes tapping in the area of the screen between the Trump and Harris field, Brown said.
> Despite additional attempts, Brown said investigators weren't able to recreate it a second time.
> "The Kentucky Attorney General’s Department of Criminal Investigations quickly responded to the complaint from Laurel County. Detectives have been in touch with the county clerk and recommended they change out the voting machine," Kentucky Attorney General Russell Coleman said in a statement. "All Kentucky voters can have confidence that our elections are secure and any potential issues will be addressed quickly."
> In a statement Friday, officials from the Kentucky State Board of Elections said the voting machine registered the selection for Harris because the voter was touching two boxes simultaneously.
> Initially, the voter used their finger to "jab" the small box in the top-left corner of the Trump field on the touchscreen. After a few failed attempts, a second hand enters the frame and is seen attempting to "simultaneously click the large Trump field with an index finger and the large Robert F. Kennedy field with a thumb, leaving the Harris box highlighted," officials said.
> Michon Lindstrom, spokesperson for Kentucky Secretary of State Michael Adams, also dismissed the incident as "voter error."
> Brown emphasized that the issue occurred on a ballot-marking machine, which does not process votes. Marking machines allow voters to make their selections for their ballot and then physically print them to be cast and counted.
> If the machine prints a faulty ballot, voters are able to discard it and print a corrected one, Brown said.