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Using an 8K TV as a Monitor

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Re: Using an 8K TV as a Monitor

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Post by atahanacar »

egypturnash wrote: post #10

That's a hell of a desk. And counter to the argument that "you could just have the one huge screen for entertainment AND work" because this is not a desk you can easily clear out from in front of the sofa when you stop working. This is making me want to get some blackout curtains for my living room so I can go back to occasionally working with my laptop hooked to the projector, though. It's about the same resolution…

I use a 50" 4K TV as my monitor. It's mounted on a long TV mount that can bend at 3 points, one near the wall, one near the TV and one in the middle. Gives me great freedom. One warning to people who want to do the same: make sure your mount has a way to rotate (around the screen's surface normal) the TV as the weight of it will make it sag.

Re: Using an 8K TV as a Monitor

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Post by coretx »

appleiigs wrote: post #76
exitb wrote: post #18

After 15 years of having a desk job I find that I’m more sensitive to the position I sit in. My back feels a lot better if I have a single, regular sized screen right in front of me, instead of having additional screen estate on the sides or below (as with a laptop). At the same time I use virtual desktops that I can switch with both keyboard and mouse.

The general advice is to have top of monitor at eye level, but it's been wrong advice for me personally. I now put the middle of the monitor at eye level. Keeps my head up and posture better. Leaning back instead of stooping.

The general advice provided to me, and relayed by me is eyes centered @ 2/3th of the screen. The best advice received and relayed by me regarding posture might surprise you. If you struggle with posture, stop caring about what other people might think about your posture. Changing/Tweaking posture all the time might look bad, but it also tends to mitigate the effects of being frozen in bad posture(!) The health impact is too significant to ignore.

Re: Using an 8K TV as a Monitor

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Post by jsheard »

AnthonBerg wrote: post #34
PaulRobinson wrote: post #12

I upgraded recently, by buying a friends old Samsung Odyssey G9 49" curved monitor off him (he was emigrating). Before that I had 2 x 27" monitors, a setup I had used for ~10 years. I honestly think the curve is essential when dealing with such a wide display. The alternative would be - as article states - to set it back a little and have a deeper desk so you can actually see the edge of the screen properly. I don't…

It’s different from person to person!, whether the curve is good or not. I have a ruler flat 55” OLED TV as main monitor. It’s perfect for me. I’m like… 1-1.5 meters from it where I’m closest to it, haha. The edges are further away. It’s fine! – imo / ime. (The need for the curve is also subtly different depending on how the panel was made. I tried a flat 43” IPS 4K monitor, expecting IPS to be good. And it wasn’t ve…

> It’s different from person to person!, whether the curve is good or not.

The amount of curve also varies a lot between models so there's some nuance even within that. The curve might be as strong as 800R or as weak as 2300R depending on the monitor, where the number corresponds to the radius of the circle the panel follows in millimeters.

Re: Using an 8K TV as a Monitor

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Post by bufferoverflow »

wcoenen wrote: post #55
jamalaramala wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are these monitors sold as "gaming" monitors?

Low response time (i.e. time it takes for a pixel to change color) to reduce ghosting, and a high refresh rate up to 240 Hz. These monitors are expensive and do not have very high resolution. If you're not a hardcore fast reflex gamer, and you spend a lot of time looking at text, then IMO it's better to buy a higher resolution monitor for less money.

These days you can buy 4K/240Hz displays that have a 1080p/480Hz mode.

Even 240Hz is usually enough for really good players. 480Hz is just for the 0.01% who can take advantage of it.

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Swift-Gaming-Monitor-PG32UCDP/dp...

https://www.amazon.com/LG-‎32GS95UE-Ultragear-DisplayHDR-Dis...

https://www.amazon.com/LG-‎32GS95UV-Ultragear-DisplayHDR-Dis...

https://www.amazon.com/Predator-Monitor-FreeSync-Premium-100...

Re: Using an 8K TV as a Monitor

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Post by atahanacar »

codingdave wrote: post #5

I already use a 4K TV for a monitor. 8K would just push a need for a more expensive video card, while decreasing how well people can see when I share my screen. Even on a 4K, I need to blow it up to ridiculous zoom levels to make a screen-share readable to others. I'm sure not everyone would run into that problem, but it is a fairly strong con to be aware of.

If you are on Linux, you can divide the entire screen into multiple virtual monitors and share only one of them. This has the benefit of giving you "private" monitors what won't be shared.

Another option could be to temporarily lower the resolution.

Re: Using an 8K TV as a Monitor

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Post by vid »

I wanted to go down this path some months ago, but couldn't find any options on the market. I ended up with a 42" 4k LG C3, but it's just "ok" because I can easily see pixels. I wanted to use the room as dual use work/watch movies, but without the need to watch movies I'd probably go back to a wide screen curved display.

Re: Using an 8K TV as a Monitor

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Post by criddell »

exitb wrote: post #18

After 15 years of having a desk job I find that I’m more sensitive to the position I sit in. My back feels a lot better if I have a single, regular sized screen right in front of me, instead of having additional screen estate on the sides or below (as with a laptop). At the same time I use virtual desktops that I can switch with both keyboard and mouse.

I'm the same. I use a single 27" 4k monitor and use virtual desktops. The best upgrade for me though was getting a computer prescription for some glasses that I keep on my desk.

Sometimes I think about upgrading to a 5k monitor. The Apple Studio Display looks great, but I'm a Windows user and I'm guessing a lot of the nice features of that display are Mac-only.

There aren't a whole lot of options for 5k monitors. Other than Apple I think there's a Dell, but it's too wide. There's a Samsung but I've been burned by Samsung too many times. There's also an LG 5k monitor but it gets pretty weak reviews.

Re: Using an 8K TV as a Monitor

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Post by kwanbix »

exitb wrote: post #18

After 15 years of having a desk job I find that I’m more sensitive to the position I sit in. My back feels a lot better if I have a single, regular sized screen right in front of me, instead of having additional screen estate on the sides or below (as with a laptop). At the same time I use virtual desktops that I can switch with both keyboard and mouse.

Same for me. I just tried a curved 27 inches monitor and I hate it.

Re: Using an 8K TV as a Monitor

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Post by saltcured »

thfuran wrote: post #73
diggan wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm guessing because it allows you to set the Field-of-Vision to be pretty wide? I mostly play simulation games, particularly flying, and having a wider FoV makes things easier, until you're ready to go to the top step of using VR instead so you also get depth perception and essentially 360 FoV since you can rotate your head.

A curved, very wide fov screws up the camera projection for most games though.

I wonder what the math would look like to properly render 3D scenes onto a curved display. Could it be accelerated as well as the regular matrix operations used for perspective projection onto planar screens?

During the pandemic I did try out my 4K TV as a game monitor. I had a combination of furniture so that I could sit rather close with my eyes approximately half way up the screen, with a keyboard and mouse in a reasonable position. Then, using an older FPS game I got it to where my laptop GPU could hit good frame rates and I adjusted the game's viewing angle to match how the screen fit my field of view.

It was deeply immersive in spite of me being so close I could "see the pixels". The only time I've felt more immersive was demoing Quake in a 3 wall + floor CAVE at a national lab decades ago.

Re: Using an 8K TV as a Monitor

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Post by bdcravens »

> The bezels and gaps in between the monitors introduce distractions and one is limited in how one may arrange terminals and windows across multiple displays.

To me, the segmentation is a feature. It lets me offload information density and focus. For example, I commonly have an editor on one screen, a browser on the second, and something like a chat app, terminal, etc on the laptop screen.

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