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Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by xyst »

An arbitrary limit of 32G of memory? Laughable. Glad I exited the Apple ecosystem long ago. Only have 2-3 year old machines now. Current phone is “free” from carrier due to trade ins.

I think Apple should shift away from personal computing (iMac, MBP/A, iPhone) and focus on selling their SoC. Get these into data centers.

Powering a data center with their chips would likely result in significant decrease in power consumption. I am running an “old” M1 as a small remote k8s cluster for personal dev work and home automation. Works wonderfully.

Power consumption during peak load (20 W?) is very low compared to my Intel based computer (120-150W?) I use for occasional gaming.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by porphyra »

thibaut_barrere wrote: post #19
bearjaws wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

27" is really the best screen size for productivity. Easily can find 1440p or 4k 27" monitors to pair, and they have come down a lot in price.

So far the screens I've tested are more tiring to my eyes (I work both on a M1 13" with external screens, and on a legacy 27" iMac). What are the best 27" screens for coding comfort that work well with Macs these days?

Apart from the Samsung Viewfinity that another commenter mentioned, there's also the LG Ultrafine 5K and the Huawei Mateview. The MateView is nicer than other 4K monitors because it has a taller aspect ratio of 3840 x 2560 so the extra 400 pixels of vertical space is nice for productivity work, although of course this is still fewer total pixels than a 5K display.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by mmastrac »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #82
randmeerkat wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Then again, the rest of the industry has figured out a way to make slottable RAM almost as fast and compact as soldered RAM… Just be patient, the EU will take a large stick and force Apple to allow users to replace their RAM soon too.

Very unlikely. Apple can argue that less than 1% of computers users ever upgrade their memory (which is true), and after all, did the EU intervene when GPUs dropped their slotted memory?

GPU memory is 20 MT/s+, Apple is ~6 MT/s, LPCAMM supports ~7500 MT/s.

Easy heuristic: if your memory transfer rate is more than 1.5x the standard, you can solder RAM. If not, you must use the standard.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by endemic »

ChadNauseam wrote: post #58
mmastrac wrote: post #10

If 32GB is the max, why not just make that the one and only model and get rid of this weird segmentation. That's a ridiculously low minimum and only just barely adequate. 8GB was practically criminal. Or -- and I know this is crazy -- slottable RAM on a device that is designed for things other than portability. Wild, I know.

I’ve never felt memory limited on my 16gb macbook pro, on which I code, run rust-analyzer (major memory hog), video edit, etc. Most people definitely don’t need 32GB

"640K of memory should be enough for anybody." -- apocryphal BillG

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by [deleted] »

speedgoose wrote: post #24

Do you think there is a chance that they will remove the huge bottom bezel one day? It may be part of the iMac design identity at this point, but I don’t like it since its appearance on the iMac G5.

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Re: New iMac with M4

#98

Post by aqme28 »

piinbinary wrote: post #11

It's frustrating how disposable these are designed to be edit: e.g. screen replacements cost nearly as much as the entire computer

Are you expected to replace your screen often? I don't think I upgrade and replace either one much faster than the other. Usually get a new monitor and a new PC every 4 or so years.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by tomjen3 »

phs2501 wrote: post #16

Why does this still have the ridiculous iMac chin? Surely they can fit everything behind the screen at this point.

Someone got into their mind that it was important that everything is as thin as possible - hence the chin.

I miss the times when they used the form factor to actually make new shapes - both the sunflower and the cube looks more futuristic than the 2024 iMac.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by alberth »

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #69
phs2501 wrote: post #16

Why does this still have the ridiculous iMac chin? Surely they can fit everything behind the screen at this point.

It makes a lot more sense if you look at the iFixit teardown. https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iMac+M1+24-Inch+Teardown/142...

Does it though?

The iMac is basically the same as the M4 iPad Pro, and the iPad Pro doesn't have a chin.

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