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Re: New Architecture is here

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>but the discussions are becoming increasingly pointless And hostile. Point out that someone is wrong (even with hard evidence at hand) and people will still try to push their deluded conclusions nonetheless. Same thing for expressing an opinion outside what the hivemind deems acceptable. Btw, I think this phenomenon is a widespread cultural thing, not HN specific. Happens irl so much that it is now almost impossible…

I've seen what you're describing and it worries me deeply. I think it's a combination of: 1. Ragebait being so useful at generating engagement that it's become a standard form of human interaction 2. The Internet making people feel safe from physical repercussions which makes people feel comfortable with treating others badly 3. Internet communities quickly becoming echo chambers where you're forced to pick a side if…

Oh man, this is a very interesting take.

Indeed, it is definitely the case that this kind of behavior/content gets amplified. When you log in, in some sense, any reality could be crafted just for you, for good or for bad. The overwhelming majority of people are vulnerable to this. What they see == what they think it's real, me included, btw.

I once read an article about how the vast majority of dating now begins through an online interaction (say , Tinder), and how also the vast majority of these apps are controlled by 2-3 companies. Think about the massive power they have over everyone else's lives. You want to encourage interracial relationships? Suppress matches within the same race and encourage matches outside of it. (And the opposite could be done, I'm not making a political statement here). These people have the power to completely change the demographic landscape of a country in a couple decades(!). They should be heavily regulated, but far from it, no one is even aware of this.

It will only get worse with "AI", unfortunately.

Re: New Architecture is here

#93

At the time of writing this comment, we've got: 1 person talking about how they wish react native didn't exist 1 person asking about Capacitor 1 person complaining about Expo 1 person saying that they wouldn't use react native and recommending Kotlin Multiplatform instead 1 person complaining about the quality of the discussion (Me) 0 people talking about the new architecture I still love Hacker News but the discussi…

Reddit does a lot better of job bringing good relevant comments to the top.

It really depends. I guess on more specific subs, sure. Like if this was posted on the react or react native sub.

If this was on programming or even web dev you'd just see "react bad" or "embedding a browser for an app is blablabla" (when react native doesn't even do that)

Re: New Architecture is here

#94

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>> keeps maintaining that there’s no data point to think that the state of discussions are declining. I would simply say a lot of contrarian viewpoints, regardless of merit, are downvoted into oblivion. Once you get hammered on something you simply had a different viewpoint on? Users tend to stop commenting for fear of reprisals. Your "karma" on here is not easy to obtain so when people downvote you simply for a diff…

> Your "karma" on here is not easy to obtain so when people downvote you simply for a differing opinion, it makes it less likely they will wade into a discussion again and find themselves on the wrong side of some Hacker News diva having a bad day. Why do fake internet points matter so much? Yes, karma is difficult to attain, but it also does (almost) nothing other than indicate how active a person is here. > This me…

You can say it shouldn't matter, but it looks like on every social media platform and for most people, they do care about these things.

Re: New Architecture is here

#95

I have been working for the past four years exclusively on react-native apps and their backend API, from bootstrap to publishing, adding new features every few months and maintaining the apps. It was a mixed experience. When I migrated to expo two years ago, many problems were solved but not all. But I still encounters bugs and problems with many common dependencies. It is not uncommon to have bugs on certain Android…

Soooo.. more react-native contributors have bought in to the Apple ecosystem, so frameworks and components are better designed and tested there?

Which similar frameworks' developers have subscribed to the Android ecosystem and do much better work there?

Re: New Architecture is here

#96

I have been working for the past four years exclusively on react-native apps and their backend API, from bootstrap to publishing, adding new features every few months and maintaining the apps. It was a mixed experience. When I migrated to expo two years ago, many problems were solved but not all. But I still encounters bugs and problems with many common dependencies. It is not uncommon to have bugs on certain Android…

Having used both RN and Flutter quite a bit I also much prefer Flutter, despite being a big fan of Typescript and React for the web.

Flutter just feels like a much more polished and stable platform built explicitly for purpose and I've never had any performance issues.

Re: New Architecture is here

#97

I'm a Flutter dev since 2018 and I am honestly not sure if Flutter or React Native still make sense in 2024 and onwards. When they emerged, the mobile development scene was completely different than today. Today, we have Swift UI and Compose, both are pretty solid. I'm not sure if it's the consensus amongst mobile developers, but I believe that on the mid/long run you will be better off - even if you write things twi…

I agree with you only in terms of Flutter and Web: Been a Flutter dev since years now as well and would definitely NOT encourage it for the Web.

That said, it is absolutely up there with the best choices for mobile app dev these days.

I don't see any reason not to use it there, and the industry seems to be thinking in the same direction atm

Re: New Architecture is here

#98

I did a performance test last year, rendering thousands of views, and Flutter's rendering speed was 5 times faster than React Native. I wonder if this version will be improved after the update. Interestingly, I used React on the web to render the same number of views, and its speed was much faster than React Native.

I'm telling you, Flutter has amazing performance (+ incredible dev experience).

Re: New Architecture is here

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post #74

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Kind of. We already had a native UI tree running in native (the same way the browser has it's own internal representation of the DOM). The difference in this release is that we rewrote it in C++ and made it immutable. That means instead of having a different UI tree in each platform (one for iOS, one for Android, etc), we have one C++ tree that all platforms use. And since it's immutable, it's thread safe and we can…

Thanks for the clarification. Dumb question: How does the renderer ensure consistency in case o multiple immutable tree references?

Wondering the same (replying to easier find your comment and hopefully the answer since i cant favorite comments)
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