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If America isn’t perfect, does that mean its enemies must be? Surely you don’t live in so simple a world? Anyway, us encroaching on Russian interests (debatable) is hardly an excuse for them to go blowing up a country full of innovent civilians.
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> there's absolutely nothing you can do about this to prevent this. Fibre can be cut. I know it's unpalatable, or somehow "an escalation", but when NATO started backing Ukraine and the US imposed sanctions on Russia, the logical move would have been to immediately sever all of their international network links. There's what, a few dozen fibre connections crossing their borders? The alternative is this: https://editio…
"an escalation" is a bit of an understatement if you try to cut the fiber connecting Russia and China. they also share a border with Georgia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan and Mongolia. what the fuck are you going to do? do you people not understand how the Internet works? unless you isolate your network from all other networks, it is accessible from any other network.
That’s fixable too. If the rest of the world drops all packets to or from Russian CIDR blocks, it doesn’t matter how many fibre links they still have lit up.
Just a handful of public clouds and major CDNs dropping packets from Russian IPs would cut them off from almost all Internet services directly or indirectly. Good luck browsing web pages with cdnjs and the like just timing out for you!
Russia can route to the rest of the Internet because they’re being allowed to in the same sense that they can sell oil and gas to Europe because Europeans are allowing them to.
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"an escalation" is a bit of an understatement if you try to cut the fiber connecting Russia and China. they also share a border with Georgia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan and Mongolia. what the fuck are you going to do? do you people not understand how the Internet works? unless you isolate your network from all other networks, it is accessible from any other network.
That’s fixable too. If the rest of the world drops all packets to or from Russian CIDR blocks, it doesn’t matter how many fibre links they still have lit up. Just a handful of public clouds and major CDNs dropping packets from Russian IPs would cut them off from almost all Internet services directly or indirectly. Good luck browsing web pages with cdnjs and the like just timing out for you! Russia can route to the re…
> If the rest of the world drops all packets to or from Russian CIDR blocks
yes, okay, fine, go convince China to do just that
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> Not just because of sanctions, but because they don't allow me to. It's illegal for me No it's because aws/azure failed to follow local Russian laws + sanctions imposed by US. If you need Russian vps, you can contact Russian providers.
Microsoft seems to have no trouble “following local laws” in every other country they’re present in. What’s different about the local laws in Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea?
Sanctions. Complying with local law or operating in those countries might break sanctions.
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#97If you scroll down on the thread linked, someone mentions the reason isn't that the developers are Russian, but because their employers in Russia are sanctioned companies.
I don't know if that's accurate, but seems feasible. If so I'm 100% behind it.
It'd be nice to know the exact reasoning for this, rather than just see a commit without any context of why they're being removed. I'm pretty sure we'll know in due time.
Re: Several Russian developers lose kernel maintainership status
#98Probably the best thing that can happen to the kernel... this type of measure generally backfires spectacularly by giving talent the opportunity to thrive, if anything as a way to fight back against injustice and arbitrary decisions, or for sanctioned opposition to invest in resilience by dumping more money in things otherwise not consider a priority. I always thought Argentine music from the 80's and early 90s was l…
Regional bands thrived and created gems that even today can be appreciated as masterpieces... Care to name a few?
I used to pirate a lot of random music in early 00’s and went through a Latin phase. Downloaded one album by Fabiana Cantilo full of covers by what seemed to be other Argentine artists and some names are Soda Stereo and Andres Calamaro.
They seem to have a lot of what kids today would call bangers.
Some of my favorite Argentine songs: Donde Manda Marinero, En La Ciudad De la Furia. Fabiana’s album that I torrented back in the day happens to be covers of the famous songs and I like a lot of them too
Disclaimer, I just happened to know some Argentine songs that are total ear worms, not necessarily an expert in Argentine music
Re: Several Russian developers lose kernel maintainership status
#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
If America isn’t perfect, does that mean its enemies must be? Surely you don’t live in so simple a world? Anyway, us encroaching on Russian interests (debatable) is hardly an excuse for them to go blowing up a country full of innovent civilians.
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#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
Microsoft seems to have no trouble “following local laws” in every other country they’re present in. What’s different about the local laws in Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea?
Sanctions. Complying with local law or operating in those countries might break sanctions.
China is not sanctioned.