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Re: Learning to Learn

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Post by sksxihve »

zer0tonin wrote: post #87
setgree wrote: post #75

Something from Andrej Karpathy on learning that stuck with me [0]: > Learning is not supposed to be fun. It doesn't have to be actively not fun either, but the primary feeling should be that of effort. It should look a lot less like that "10 minute full body" workout from your local digital media creator and a lot more like a serious session at the gym. You want the mental equivalent of sweating. It's not that the qu…

This is complete bs. I've learned 2 languages to fluency by mostly watching movies. I've learned the linux cli by setting up a minecraft server for my friends in high school. I've learned programming by making IRC (and later Discord) bots for communities I was part of. All of this was fun, and it worked better than staring at a textbook and hoping that my "effort" pays off.

Agreed, consistency is more important than doing a marathon session. Anyone who has learned a musical instrument can tell you this, far better to practice 10 minutes a day everyday than 1 hour once a week.

Re: Learning to Learn

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Post by danielmarkbruce »

zer0tonin wrote: post #87
setgree wrote: post #75

Something from Andrej Karpathy on learning that stuck with me [0]: > Learning is not supposed to be fun. It doesn't have to be actively not fun either, but the primary feeling should be that of effort. It should look a lot less like that "10 minute full body" workout from your local digital media creator and a lot more like a serious session at the gym. You want the mental equivalent of sweating. It's not that the qu…

This is complete bs. I've learned 2 languages to fluency by mostly watching movies. I've learned the linux cli by setting up a minecraft server for my friends in high school. I've learned programming by making IRC (and later Discord) bots for communities I was part of. All of this was fun, and it worked better than staring at a textbook and hoping that my "effort" pays off.

Yeah, but Andrej is talking about learning much harder things in much more depth. He's a world class research scientist and engineer.

Practically everyone on planet earth learns a language as a child. Learning how to use some commands in linux and and programming a bot are literally child's play. I learned to play soccer the way you speak of - i'm... ok at it. Messi did a different thing.

Re: Learning to Learn

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Post by danielmarkbruce »

cynicalsecurity wrote: post #77
setgree wrote: post #75

Something from Andrej Karpathy on learning that stuck with me [0]: > Learning is not supposed to be fun. It doesn't have to be actively not fun either, but the primary feeling should be that of effort. It should look a lot less like that "10 minute full body" workout from your local digital media creator and a lot more like a serious session at the gym. You want the mental equivalent of sweating. It's not that the qu…

Judging from his name, he has been struck with post-soviet spirit of doom and gloom.

He's also been struck with 10-100s of millions of dollars, an insanely successful career, and a good nature.

Re: Learning to Learn

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Post by keeptrying »

firejake308 wrote: post #70
keeptrying wrote: post #15

A big hole in this article is that you need to find the very best learning resource there is. This is a must. Eg: For RL it would be Barto&Sutton book. Sometimes the best source is not intuitive. Eg: The best way to become a safe driver is to go to performance drivign school - its a bit expensive but they tell you how to sit and stay alert in a car which I have never seen outside of these schools. One of my most comm…

As a medical student, perhaps I can give some recommendations on the best free resources to learn medicine. If you like YouTube videos, Ninja Nerd has a great channel for learning the foundations. If you like textbooks, I used Guyton for physiology and Harrison's is probably the standard for clinical medicine. If you just want to look up how to treat a specific condition, look up " clinical guidelines". You'll always…

Thanks for the reply.

Yep I'm ware of Guyton and Nnja.

The marginal information that a doctor has from real life is useful but with so many medical errors, for 80% of people they aren't relevant.

I've caught surgeons literally mentioning the wrong type of incisions right before the surgery.

Re: Learning to Learn

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Post by nwnwhwje »

> “What’s something you’ve learned that you believe gives you an edge - something that you’re almost surprised more people don’t know about?”

My response: Nice try.

Re: Learning to Learn

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Post by keeptrying »

kashunstva wrote: post #66
keeptrying wrote: post #15

A big hole in this article is that you need to find the very best learning resource there is. This is a must. Eg: For RL it would be Barto&Sutton book. Sometimes the best source is not intuitive. Eg: The best way to become a safe driver is to go to performance drivign school - its a bit expensive but they tell you how to sit and stay alert in a car which I have never seen outside of these schools. One of my most comm…

> My own learning project - learn Medicine "on the side". It seems ludcirous that we give up the keys to our health to doctors just so we don't have to learn 2 years of courses. Am going to fix that! While I admire the drive to become knowledgeable in the field of medicine outside of a professional curriculum in the disciplines, I’m not aware of any curriculum that proposes competency as a medical doctor in two years…

The first two years are the scientific part of a medical course.

The next two are more about interacting with a live patient in a variety of settings. Obviously this si useful.

But most of the harm created by the medical system and skewed doctor incentives (only 15 minutes to see you) can be averted by those 2 years. For example: knowing to e able to read a examination report means abiliy to ask questions immediately.

Re: Learning to Learn

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Post by keeptrying »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #41
keeptrying wrote: post #15

A big hole in this article is that you need to find the very best learning resource there is. This is a must. Eg: For RL it would be Barto&Sutton book. Sometimes the best source is not intuitive. Eg: The best way to become a safe driver is to go to performance drivign school - its a bit expensive but they tell you how to sit and stay alert in a car which I have never seen outside of these schools. One of my most comm…

>you need to find the very best learning resource there is. This is a must. I think there's a line around "good enough", unless your goal of course is to be on the road to "become the very best". I think the better metric is making sure you have a accurate resource over a quality one. The 15-20 hour "sprint hard" methodology isn't stopping after that first sprint, just slowing down. So if you find/can now access a be…

By the very fact that the resource is "good enough" implies that it won't have the holistic and beginner-tolerance required of a good instruction set.

A great text will get you upto beinngin in 2 weeks - month. A "good enough" will mean a year if it isn't your primary focus.

Try learning RL from any other text than Barto-Sutton.

Re: Learning to Learn

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Post by keeptrying »

sam29681749 wrote: post #32
keeptrying wrote: post #15

A big hole in this article is that you need to find the very best learning resource there is. This is a must. Eg: For RL it would be Barto&Sutton book. Sometimes the best source is not intuitive. Eg: The best way to become a safe driver is to go to performance drivign school - its a bit expensive but they tell you how to sit and stay alert in a car which I have never seen outside of these schools. One of my most comm…

It's not foolproof, but some universities publish their course textbook lists online (and in some cases recommended readings too). As a bonus, textbooks often have recommendations for further readings.

Yep ... UCSF does this.

Weidly its the only good one I Found.

Re: Learning to Learn

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Post by keeptrying »

cbracketdash wrote: post #18
keeptrying wrote: post #15

A big hole in this article is that you need to find the very best learning resource there is. This is a must. Eg: For RL it would be Barto&Sutton book. Sometimes the best source is not intuitive. Eg: The best way to become a safe driver is to go to performance drivign school - its a bit expensive but they tell you how to sit and stay alert in a car which I have never seen outside of these schools. One of my most comm…

Would love to hear more about your thoughts on learning medicine! Why would you recommend an online program over textbooks?

U=I bought more or less every book on this.

https://meded.ucsf.edu/sites/meded.ucsf.edu/files/inline-fil...

Start with Anatomy.

Start with a problem you HAve personally. And understand the anatomy and physiology. Use that to learn every abstraction you bump into. Example you'll definitely need to learn about the skin for example

Also go to uptodate.com for your condition. Thats basically what a doc uses anyways.

For inspiration go to r/medicalschool .

Constantly use

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