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AWS CEO tells workers to quit if they don't want to come back to the office
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#92Amazon (aws) was by far the worst place I’ve worked. Literally every engineer was offered and this was in Germany, where the culture and labor laws are super employee friendly. Everything was soulless including the god ugly Chime and other internal tools. Although principles like bias for action, disagree and commit are pretty effective and cool. Just for work culture, I’d have preferred to work at Google or Facebook…
“principles like bias for action, disagree and commit are pretty effective and cool.”
Got any more?
Is there a list of these anywhere?
Re: AWS CEO tells workers to quit if they don't want to come back to the office
#93Presumably A lot of great engineers are going to quit, and AWS is going to lose a lot of people. That is going to have an impact on their business. Is there a way we can measure this impact?
It would be an interesting study to look back over the last five years at the company's performance, and then compare it moving forward now that they are going back to the office fully.
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#94I wonder which tech company will be the first to take this too far and implode because of some easily-avoidable cataclysm. I think in some ways you could say Twitter / X already did although they are still limping along for now...
It’s a fairly calculated move, as they know market for engineers isn’t in the best shape, so a significant chunk will keep working with no complaints. They also ramped up hiring heavily, if the number of messages I get from Amazon’s recruiters is an indicator.
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#95The fact that US labour laws are this weak is a travesty. You can just circumvent severance by making working conditions unpleasant and you don’t even need to hide it.
This happened to my company a couple of months ago, and this was in Europe. As anecdata the managers implementing this forced RTO with "just quit if you don't like it" as an option were all Amazon alumni.
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#96I don't understand. Why would they tell you to quit? What's in that for you? Just keep going until they tell you to work from the office or they'll fire you, and then you can make a decision.
I did that (in a different company). They fired me. :)
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#97I realise this topic has been covered repeatedly but considering it from another angle: As an engineer employed by third party companies using AWS, this doesn't look good. I don't care if the support people are in an office. I do care if they're available and know what they're doing. There are other cloud providers available. For new entrants, what's Amazon's unique selling point?
I'm not sure what your argument is. I feel like you just wanted to bash amazon. If you don't care if the support people are in office, why are you concerned by the RTO news?
I'm concerned that Amazon is driving their best people away for a vanity metric that their customers don't care about- see 'The Dead Sea Effect'
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#98I realise this topic has been covered repeatedly but considering it from another angle: As an engineer employed by third party companies using AWS, this doesn't look good. I don't care if the support people are in an office. I do care if they're available and know what they're doing. There are other cloud providers available. For new entrants, what's Amazon's unique selling point?
> what's Amazon's unique selling point
The same thing it's always been: cargo cult membership for tech bros who think Amazon invented renting virtual servers.
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#99Any statistics on the kind of people that stick to office work. A, B, or C players? Introverts vs extroverts, programmers vs project managers..
I heard Amazon employees were told 9 out of 10 Amazonians were looking forward to returning to the office. I guess they asked ten employees this question. Nine were on H1B visas, and the tenth was already on Focus/PIP.
I'm honestly not sure what's more cringeworthy: demanding your already ridiculously flighty workforce return to cubicles to satisfy the middle management requirement of seeing bums on seats, or calling your staff Amazonians.