Spring time and it’s 7 degrees. Usually higher this time of year.
Which means that in another parts of the world are warmer than it should be, not your current location, or bubble. These are global averages.
Since spring of 2023, the world has been warmer than climate models anticipated
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Re: Since spring of 2023, the world has been warmer than climate models anticipated
#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
> That's a good one, vote for the guy who's against EVs and thinks climate change is a hoax. The thing is, I agree with you, but I don't think that's actually that convincing an argument. Trump isn't going to personally reverse the ongoing exit from fossil fuels. Green energy might go faster or slower, but that doesn't necessarily matter in terms of preventing very bad outcomes. I think the high-concept paths to miti…
> Trump isn't going to personally reverse the ongoing exit from fossil fuels. No, he actually would [1][2][3][4]. And that's without even counting Putin. When they tell you who they are, believe them. [1] https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/28/trump-paris-climate... [2] https://www.reuters.com/world/us/uaw-chief-slams-trump-over-... [3] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2024-07-19/trump-pledg... [4] https://www…
I think the primary trend isn't based on the agreement but on the economic reality that solar panels are cheap and still getting cheaper. You can speed it up or slow it down, but it's not reversible at this point. You might have four years of slowboating, but that only matters if we're on the edge of disaster. If we're already committed to disaster, to the extent that we need radical interventions to plausibly achieve success, whether you slowboat the trend doesn't matter.
Re: Since spring of 2023, the world has been warmer than climate models anticipated
#93I have zero fear of global warming.
BUT if I did, the only real way to reduce energy usage is to reduce the population of earth drastically. People cannot be made to live in squalor willingly.
From the Georgia Guide stones: Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
For those who are keen on math, that means we need to eliminate 7.6 billion people to return to "balance".
Re: Since spring of 2023, the world has been warmer than climate models anticipated
#94Not only the climate is warmer than models anticipated, we're doing worse to prevent it than pessimistic expectations.
Not only that, we're approaching a massive tipping point in just a couple of weeks. Some of the "poser pontificators" claim to be concerned about the climate, yet they're not even sure they will vote. If you have relatives in college in MI, WI, PA, NC, GA, NV or AZ who are concerned about the climate, get them to shake off the stupor.
Unfortunately the passage of time has shown that lesser-evils "vote blue no matter hoo" is not even close to sufficient in addressing this crisis. Capital interests are to blame, and in the US, we have two political parties entirely controlled by capital. Other countries aren't much different.
https://medium.com/@samyoureyes/the-busy-workers-handbook-to...
Re: Since spring of 2023, the world has been warmer than climate models anticipated
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not only that, we're approaching a massive tipping point in just a couple of weeks. Some of the "poser pontificators" claim to be concerned about the climate, yet they're not even sure they will vote. If you have relatives in college in MI, WI, PA, NC, GA, NV or AZ who are concerned about the climate, get them to shake off the stupor.
Unfortunately the passage of time has shown that lesser-evils "vote blue no matter hoo" is not even close to sufficient in addressing this crisis. Capital interests are to blame, and in the US, we have two political parties entirely controlled by capital. Other countries aren't much different. https://medium.com/@samyoureyes/the-busy-workers-handbook-to...
You do realize of course that this is exactly the claim that someone who wanted to get the worst candidate in the history of the presidency (by a few orders of magnitude) elected would make?
Re: Since spring of 2023, the world has been warmer than climate models anticipated
#96I have zero fear of global warming. BUT if I did, the only real way to reduce energy usage is to reduce the population of earth drastically. People cannot be made to live in squalor willingly. From the Georgia Guide stones: Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature. For those who are keen on math, that means we need to eliminate 7.6 billion people to return to "balance".
I mean this genuinely: why do you choose to quote and trust some unreferenced and completely arbitrary 500 million population number that some bizarre unidentified group of people with zero accountability carved into a random stone monument 45 years ago, but "have zero fear of global warming" despite the alarm bells rung by modern, rigorously studied, data- and evidence-informed scientific discourse? Why should readers of this comment give any credence whatsoever to the Georgia Guidestones?
Re: Since spring of 2023, the world has been warmer than climate models anticipated
#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Trump isn't going to personally reverse the ongoing exit from fossil fuels. No, he actually would [1][2][3][4]. And that's without even counting Putin. When they tell you who they are, believe them. [1] https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/28/trump-paris-climate... [2] https://www.reuters.com/world/us/uaw-chief-slams-trump-over-... [3] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2024-07-19/trump-pledg... [4] https://www…
I think the primary trend isn't based on the agreement but on the economic reality that solar panels are cheap and still getting cheaper. You can speed it up or slow it down, but it's not reversible at this point. You might have four years of slowboating, but that only matters if we're on the edge of disaster. If we're already committed to disaster, to the extent that we need radical interventions to plausibly achiev…
You continue to claim that not voting or that voting for Hannibal Lecter is OK in that it's really some sort of a moonshot. After all you agree with me, right?
You do realize of course that if someone just wanted to get Hannibal Lecter elected, they would be making claims like these to suppress his opponent's vote?
Re: Since spring of 2023, the world has been warmer than climate models anticipated
#98I have zero fear of global warming. BUT if I did, the only real way to reduce energy usage is to reduce the population of earth drastically. People cannot be made to live in squalor willingly. From the Georgia Guide stones: Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature. For those who are keen on math, that means we need to eliminate 7.6 billion people to return to "balance".
I mean this genuinely: why do you choose to quote and trust some unreferenced and completely arbitrary 500 million population number that some bizarre unidentified group of people with zero accountability carved into a random stone monument 45 years ago, but "have zero fear of global warming" despite the alarm bells rung by modern, rigorously studied, data- and evidence-informed scientific discourse? Why should reade…
Because the World Economic Forum has presenters like this:
WEF Jane Goodall, advocates reducing the global population down to 450 million https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5U7R73_9xQ
You might not agree with the Guidelines but are you going to disagree with the entire World Economic Forum?
It's even in the popular zeitgeist. Like this example where Bill Maher is advocating for population collapse:
New Rule: Let the Population Collapse | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB97iwcm_Qc
Re: Since spring of 2023, the world has been warmer than climate models anticipated
#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the primary trend isn't based on the agreement but on the economic reality that solar panels are cheap and still getting cheaper. You can speed it up or slow it down, but it's not reversible at this point. You might have four years of slowboating, but that only matters if we're on the edge of disaster. If we're already committed to disaster, to the extent that we need radical interventions to plausibly achiev…
You continue to claim that not voting or that voting for Hannibal Lecter is OK in that it's really some sort of a moonshot. After all you agree with me, right? You do realize of course that if someone just wanted to get Hannibal Lecter elected, they would be making claims like these to suppress his opponent's vote?
I think there's a positive argument for voting for Hannibal Lecter. I don't think there's ever a non-lazy argument for not voting.
Either one candidate is better or the other. Make up your mind and do your duty.
And yeah, sure. I'm not sure why that's relevant though. The argument either holds or it doesn't.
Re: Since spring of 2023, the world has been warmer than climate models anticipated
#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean this genuinely: why do you choose to quote and trust some unreferenced and completely arbitrary 500 million population number that some bizarre unidentified group of people with zero accountability carved into a random stone monument 45 years ago, but "have zero fear of global warming" despite the alarm bells rung by modern, rigorously studied, data- and evidence-informed scientific discourse? Why should reade…
Because the World Economic Forum has presenters like this: WEF Jane Goodall, advocates reducing the global population down to 450 million https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5U7R73_9xQ You might not agree with the Guidelines but are you going to disagree with the entire World Economic Forum? It's even in the popular zeitgeist. Like this example where Bill Maher is advocating for population collapse: New Rule: Let the Po…
Thank you for sharing some sources. To refute your first one:
- Jane Goodall in this 36-second clip does NOT advocate reducing the global population down to 450 million
- Jane Goodall speaking at a 2020 WEF panel does NOT imply that the WEF endorses any part of her comments
Your comment falsely distorts her words, and falsely equates her with the entire WEF.
More details: https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-jane-goodall-populatio...