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You can buy coca tea in headshops in Netherlands as well.
It actually works great replacing coffee as an after lunch drink.
Also recommend Guayusa which is not illegal anywhere AFAIK.
On 17th century "cocaine"
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#92I inherited a small hardcover handbook on the use of cocaine in medicine and the household. I don’t have it in front of me at the moment so I don’t remember the print date. I’m guessing late 1800 or early 1900. Ah. DDG to rescue, here is a version of it. https://www.thebookmerchantjenkins.com/product/coca-and-coca... Certainly a different perspective on it from today.
Reading the complete Sherlock Holmes stories a few months ago, I also noticed how casually the frequent use of cocaine by Holmes is mentioned as a small vice, a recreational drug that is also "chemically clean", so nothing to worry about. Opium, on the other hand, is associated with disease, crime, and the criminal underworld.
Is it not still the same?
We won’t talk about crack, of course
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#94Anyone here ever actually try coca leaves? Going to guess its effects are somewhere between coffee and cocaine
A lot of stores in Peruvian Andes sell concentrated coca leaf extract as candies. They help on higher altitude hikes. Theres one in particular that is as strong as a chemical extract.
Actually quite effective as an alternative to ADHD medicine.
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Hiking in altitude is hands down the hardest thing I did in my life. On the first day I almost died of an altitude sickness. On the following days, climbing 5 meters up the mountain felt like climbing the whole mountain twice. After every 10 steps I had to stop for 30-60 seconds and catch my breath. I drank a lot of coca tea and couldn't feel anything different. Peru, especially cordillera negra/blanca is the most sp…
> Hiking in altitude is hands down the hardest thing I did in my life HOw much preparation did you do before hand ? I'm looking at a himalayan trip next year to around a 23k feet summit (over the course of 30 days or so). I'm taking a year to train for it, but I have no way to train for 'altitude', and as I understand it reaction to altitude doesn't correlate that much with overall fitness. You can apparently be supe…
There are two factors.
1) cardio fitness (ability to do x amount of work)
2) altitude adaptation (ability to exist at altitude)
It takes from several days to several months to adapt to altitude, depending on exactly what you mean by adapt. The first 24-72 are the highest risk for altitude sickness (which can be life threatening).
Both factor into performance at altitude.
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#96Anyone here ever actually try coca leaves? Going to guess its effects are somewhere between coffee and cocaine
It’s extremely mild, not even as strong as coffee. It takes 1/2 a kilo of coca leaves to make 1g of cocaine! I often wonder why nobody has CRISPR-ed the genes from the Coca plant that make the alkaloids into yeast by now… given the $100bn market you’d expect someone to give this or another process a go.
Probably because the DEA would find a reason to shoot their dog almost immediately haha
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#97The ban on cocaine is kind of annoying even in its pure form, it’s a very useful local anaesthetic with good tolerance, low side effects that few people are allergic to. I have often wished it was included in some of the more advanced first aid kits, or used more widely for minor operations.
We have good local anesthetics that don't carry the same addiction risk. There's no reason to provide such a potent addictive drug at OTC.
As it turns out, lidocaine causes a lot of nerve damage. It even has long-lasting cognitive effects, in some patients.
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#98The ban on cocaine is kind of annoying even in its pure form, it’s a very useful local anaesthetic with good tolerance, low side effects that few people are allergic to. I have often wished it was included in some of the more advanced first aid kits, or used more widely for minor operations.
"In the United States, cocaine is regulated as a Schedule II drug under the Controlled Substances Act, meaning that it has a high potential for abuse but has an accepted medical use. While rarely used medically today, its accepted uses are as a topical local anesthetic for the upper respiratory tract as well as to reduce bleeding in the mouth, throat and nasal cavities.", from Wikipedias cocaine page. I remember sept…
Where do I buy it for my med kit?
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Isn't cocaethylene profoundly unhealthy? Even if both components were legal i don't think any country would allow them to be sold combined in one beverage.
Coca tea on the other hand, is not psychoactive, it's extremely mild and relaxing, similar to mint tea.
It's psychoactive, but not euphoric. Promoting wakefulness is a psychoactive property.
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#100Coca tea is very underrated. Too bad its probably impossible to legally buy outside of south America