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The Book of Kells, now digitized and available online

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Post by CalRobert »

rbanffy wrote: post #76
CalRobert wrote: post #3

The book of Kells is gorgeous and well worth a visit. If you are in Dublin and enjoy this sort of thing, _please_ also take the very short walk over to the Chester Beatty Library ( https://chesterbeatty.ie/ ) as well. It's free and has an absolutely fantastic collection of ancient and sacred manuscripts. I was lucky enough to live across the street from it for several years and it remains one of my favourite museums…

I live in Dublin and never heard of this. Must do it ASAP. Now, how many HN’ers are here in Dublin? We might want to start a group on Meetup.com.

I was there for ten years but moved to the Netherlands. You might like the Irish tech community slack, though they’re not fans of this site.

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Post by lionkor »

badcppdev wrote: post #90

What do people think about the Copyright notices on the images? Can someone with knowledge of Irish law comment on how something so old can still be considered copyright? Is there separate rules for images of art in galleries?

No knowledge on irish law, but the photo itself has copyright separate from the thing photographed

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Post by FearNotDaniel »

badcppdev wrote: post #89
SEJeff wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Drombeg stone circle is like stone henge’s grandfather.

Dromberg looks great and Stonehenge is definitely far too crowded with tourists[0] but with respect to age Dromberg is considered to be 3000 years old [1] versus Stone henge being 5000 years old [2] I will resist the temptation to joke about time travelling aliens 0 - Why do the tourists have so many Disney shirts, hats, and backpacks??? 1 - https://www.tuatha.ie/drombeg-stone-circle/ 2 - https://www.english-heritage…

My attempt to answer question 0 - apart from the most obvious answer, that it's a global megabrand present in every culture that is connected with the global mainstram, so it's like asking why do so many tourists drink Coke and eat at McD's - underpinning a great deal of what Disney does creatively is a collective longing for myth, magic, mystery and timeless stories that reach back through the ages. People who like that kind of stuff (i.e. an awfully large percentage of humans) and who happen to be passing through that part of England will be inevitably drawn to those big ol' stones rising out of the mist...

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Post by chefandy »

patrickdavey wrote: post #28

I went to college in Trinity and the Book of Kells is housed in the old library. Once you've finished seeing the book, you head upstairs through the Long Room, and that place is just special (they used it as the hall of the jedi) As a student there you could visit for free. I used to just go up and hang in the library for 10 mins or so a few times a year. Loved it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Trinity_C…

We had a big poster of the Long Room in the Harvard Law Library. (Employee, not student.) Gorgeous. Always looked at it walking past.

My only experience with the Book of Kells that age was working in an absolutely disgusting nightclub named after it. I was rather surprised to see how beautiful its namesake book was

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Post by NoMoreNicksLeft »

badcppdev wrote: post #90

What do people think about the Copyright notices on the images? Can someone with knowledge of Irish law comment on how something so old can still be considered copyright? Is there separate rules for images of art in galleries?

I think they're alot like adding raw sewage to the soup at the salad bar, so that people don't steal soup. It probably works, and the most important thing about soup is that no one steals it. You wouldn't steal a medieval manuscript would you? It belongs to the world as a cultural treasure, but it doesn't belong to anyone IN the world.

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Post by throw4847285 »

arethuza wrote: post #88
CalRobert wrote: post #3

The book of Kells is gorgeous and well worth a visit. If you are in Dublin and enjoy this sort of thing, _please_ also take the very short walk over to the Chester Beatty Library ( https://chesterbeatty.ie/ ) as well. It's free and has an absolutely fantastic collection of ancient and sacred manuscripts. I was lucky enough to live across the street from it for several years and it remains one of my favourite museums…

Speaking of things that are gorgeous and well worth a visit I can also strongly recommend Iona - one of the places where the Book of Kells may have been produced. A bit out of the way and the weather isn't always perfect but on a nice day I think Iona is one of the most beautiful places in the world - and that's before considering it's remarkable history and religious significance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iona

I went to Iona a couple of months ago and had a spectacular time. Though the impression I got from the Abbey Museum was that the Book of Kells was definitely written solely on Iona. I suspected this might be slightly skewed, but that's OK. I understand having pride in a place like Iona.

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Post by jajag »

grujicd wrote: post #72
stogot wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The idea that religion causes more deaths than non-religion is absurd in the 21st history (hitler, Stalin, mao) and is a myth when you take in full world history. An index of all known wars in history indicated 93% of wars were not religious. https://apholt.com/2023/01/03/the-myth-of-religion-as-the-ca...

Never said that religion was responsible for all or even most wars. But you can't deny it plays negative role in many wars. It wouldn't have to be for theological reasons, since it seems the article would only count these cases as religious wars. Religion is often used to segregate humans into opposing tribes, where without religion they could be a single nation, or even same ethnicity.

> Religion is often used to segregate humans into opposing tribes

You can say that about absolutely any belief, whether religious or not

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Post by onel »

CalRobert wrote: post #3

The book of Kells is gorgeous and well worth a visit. If you are in Dublin and enjoy this sort of thing, _please_ also take the very short walk over to the Chester Beatty Library ( https://chesterbeatty.ie/ ) as well. It's free and has an absolutely fantastic collection of ancient and sacred manuscripts. I was lucky enough to live across the street from it for several years and it remains one of my favourite museums…

+1 for Chester Beatty. It is such a gem of a museum

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Post by criddell »

lionkor wrote: post #92
badcppdev wrote: post #90

What do people think about the Copyright notices on the images? Can someone with knowledge of Irish law comment on how something so old can still be considered copyright? Is there separate rules for images of art in galleries?

No knowledge on irish law, but the photo itself has copyright separate from the thing photographed

A simple photo of a page might not be copyrightable if it doesn't show a modicum of creativity.

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Post by verisimi »

lazyasciiart wrote: post #83
chvrchbvrner wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you mean by "the opposite" that everybody believes the same thing, then theoretically yes. However, that is very unlikely and I assume there will always be people with different views/opinions. The more you put people into "separate boxes", the more you segregate them. And I agree with the previous reply that religion is one of those things that puts you in a specific box.

I think they mean that people in large groups segregate themselves into smaller ones, by whatever characteristics available. If they had the same religion they’d be separated into orthodox and progressive versions of it, or people who had come off well out of the last great flood vs people who got screwed by it. And then they’d create a religion as explanation for the flood and why it was from god/the devil.

> And then they’d create a religion as explanation for the flood and why it was from god/the devil.

.. as opposed to climate change which is self-evident.

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