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Mazda's $10 Subscription for Remote Start Sparks Backlash

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Re: Mazda's $10 Subscription for Remote Start Sparks Backlash

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The problem is value add: The old remote start system worked just fine. I click a button, a remote signal is sent to my car. Boom. Was it perfect? No. But it was local. Now we replaced a local system with a worse one. I tried using the mazda start and the delay could be 10 minutes because it depends on network coverage OR just how frequently the car wakes up to check the network. Edit: What would I pay for? - Remote…

There is lots of value to LTE-based start. It works even if you're too far from the car for the RF signal to reach. I park just below my office window because if I'm too far away, my RF-based remote start won't work. Also being able to remotely adjust climate settings would be nice. I do fully disagree with their implementation of this, especially with regards to a $10 subscription fee.

The problem is the trade-off.

We don't get to decide "I like remote-start, but I want to be able to start it from inside the store while the car is in the parking lot" -- That's a $10 a month gain that I'd pay. I don't care about that? Well I can use short-range radios.

If that was the feature? It would be hailed as awesome.

This is the pushback. Mazda turns off a bunch of features unless I pay $10 and the old version was working just fine for me.

Re: Mazda's $10 Subscription for Remote Start Sparks Backlash

#92

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The service costs orders of magnitude more than what their actual costs should be. You can have an LTE connection for probably around 10c/month/sim at the scale of Mazda with tiny amounts of data (plenty for, say, 100 remote starts/month).

Not defending subscriptions, but it's not just data. You need developers for your apps, you need servers, the service needs to be secure, etc. On the data side, as soon you have data, other services also start working, like live traffic info and so on. Again, not defending these expensive subscriptions, just pointing out that it probably costs more than 10c a month per car to keep all that stuff running.

I agree, it's more than 10c/month.

Charge me $10/year for the service and I'll happily pay it, that should cover all your costs at a scale of millions of cars.

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