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iPhone 16 demand is so weak that employees can already buy it on discount

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Re: iPhone 16 demand is so weak that employees can already buy it on discount

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Post by aetherspawn »

zalyh wrote: post #32
aetherspawn wrote: post #5

Why would I upgrade though — my $2K 13 Pro is still state of the art, and tech jobs are collapsing. Who knows whether I’ll need $2K in 3 months time?

Damn, are you me? My thoughts exactly. My 13PM is plenty good. And with all the layoffs that keep happening, imma save that money.

I think that we have now crossed some kind of threshold where processors and hardware in general are getting better at a rate faster than we can make our software more advanced (or bloated, whatever) to counter it.

Thus, hardware upgrades are now driven by software availability and not hardware going out of date quickly.

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Post by musicale »

hu3 wrote: post #88
mostlysimilar wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not a phone, a mobile computer with a lot of connectivity, senors, compute power, etc.

iPhone? A very restricted mobile computer. You can barely choose what software runs on it.

Kind of a shame that Windows Phone died.

Re: iPhone 16 demand is so weak that employees can already buy it on discount

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Post by musicale »

layer8 wrote: post #81
keeganpoppen wrote: post #79

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uhhh… are you “holding it wrong”? how could the iphone 13 mini possibly be difficult to use with large hands? i have a 15 pro max, am not kareem abdul jabar, and have absolutely no problem with one-handed operation…

You can operate the 4S with one hand without shifting your grip. It still (barely) worked with the 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af0gtsjfy7E (the diagonally opposite corner was already really stretching it) It isn’t workable with larger screens (even the mini): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K3lTwGxMTk

This is true. But the Switch has spoiled me on larger screens for handheld games, and telescoping game controllers turn the phone into a Switch-like handheld for my (non-f2p) mobile game collection.

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Post by Gud »

ornornor wrote: post #90
mostlysimilar wrote: post #85

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Not a phone, a mobile computer with a lot of connectivity, senors, compute power, etc.

Nevertheless, it is a lot of money to ask for something you will drop, break, lose, replace in a couple of years because its battery has failed. And you can’t even really do what you want with it.

Define “a couple of years”. I am using an iPhone 11 Pro and only just now am I upgrading to a 16 pro, mostly for the camera. The phone itself still works well, including the battery.

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Post by sph »

Tempest1981 wrote: post #69
sph wrote: post #27

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I get that some people spend their lives on their phones, but myself, with desktop, laptop and big hands, I don't want to carry half a tablet in my pocket to text people and play music. I adore my 12 Mini. I just wish it felt as thin as the 8

> I just wish it felt as thin as the 8 It's very close: 12 mini -> 8 -> SE gen 1 (or iPhone 5) Height: 131.5 mm -> 138.4 mm -> 123.8 mm Width: 64.2 mm -> 67.3 mm -> 58.6 mm Depth: 7.4 mm -> 7.3 mm -> 7.6 mm Weight: 135 grams -> 148 grams -> 113 grams https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?modelList=iphone-12-mi...

True, but the 8 was rounded at the sides, so even if technically close in size, the square edges of the recent models make the phone feel bulkier.

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Post by ornornor »

Gud wrote: post #94
ornornor wrote: post #90

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Nevertheless, it is a lot of money to ask for something you will drop, break, lose, replace in a couple of years because its battery has failed. And you can’t even really do what you want with it.

Define “a couple of years”. I am using an iPhone 11 Pro and only just now am I upgrading to a 16 pro, mostly for the camera. The phone itself still works well, including the battery.

Most iPhone users keep their phones less than three years: https://9to5mac.com/2023/05/10/how-long-people-keep-iphones/

I’m also buying used iPhones and keeping them longer than that but we’re outliers.

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Post by user3939382 »

usui wrote: post #18
user3939382 wrote: post #14

Remake the form factor of the 4S and we’ll talk. That’s the last phone that was comfortable to hold.

What issue did you have with iPhone 5s and iPhone SE 2016? They were better than the 4S.

The SE is rounded and larger. The 4S’ size and shape made it very secure in my hand.

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Post by rekoil »

crossroadsguy wrote: post #76
rekoil wrote: post #72

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I would trade my left kidney for an iPhone 16 Pro mini.

Right one's faulty? ;-) Why Pro etc for a Mini? I thought the point of Mini was not only to be a sanely sized phone but also a phone that is just a useful phone and not a phone with spec list that were more than overkill.

Right one is where I draw the line, take it or leave it.

Jokes aside, I just don't think the size of the device should be what decides the features that go into it. Sure, battery would be on the chopping block unless you make the device thicker, but I would have no problem with a thicker device, especially if it's otherwise the size of the 12/13 mini.

I'm confident it's possible to make a device the size of the 13 mini (slightly thicker to accommodate larger battery), with all the features of the 16 Pro, and I bet it would sell like hot cakes. I think many Pro purchasers buy Pro as a status symbol, but they don't actually want a large phone, that's my head canon for explaining why the 12/13 mini had poor sales figures, and I guess I know I'm probably wrong, but I want to be right, I'm tired of these huge phones that don't fit in my hand.

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Post by Gud »

ornornor wrote: post #96
Gud wrote: post #94

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Define “a couple of years”. I am using an iPhone 11 Pro and only just now am I upgrading to a 16 pro, mostly for the camera. The phone itself still works well, including the battery.

Most iPhone users keep their phones less than three years: https://9to5mac.com/2023/05/10/how-long-people-keep-iphones/ I’m also buying used iPhones and keeping them longer than that but we’re outliers.

And what happens to the old ones? I bet they are mostly resold, which is what I typically do.
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