We're lucky to have hard-headed people willing to put up with legal threats and bullying tactics. I'm not sure I'd have the spine for it. It reminds me of when Ben Goldacre was sued [0] which luckily his publisher covered the costs for. [0] https://www.badscience.net/files/The-Doctor-Will-Sue-You-Now...
Data sleuths who spotted research misconduct cleared of defamation
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#92Harvard Probe Finds Honesty Researcher Engaged in Scientific Misconduct - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39712021 - March 2024 (15 comments)
They studied dishonesty – Was their work a lie? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37714898 - Sept 2023 (153 comments)
Crowdfunding a defense for scientific research - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37393502 - Sept 2023 (47 comments)
I’m so sorry for psychology’s loss, whatever it is - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37315292 - Aug 2023 (94 comments)
Support Academic Freedom of Speech - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37153168 - Aug 2023 (1 comment)
Is it defamation to point out scientific research fraud? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37152030 - Aug 2023 (13 comments)
Harvard professor Francesca Gino was accused of faking data - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36968670 - Aug 2023 (146 comments)
Fabricated data in research about honesty - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36907829 - July 2023 (46 comments)
Fraudulent data raise questions about superstar honesty researcher (2021) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36726485 - July 2023 (33 comments)
Harvard ethics professor allegedly fabricated multiple studies - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36665247 - July 2023 (215 comments)
Harvard dishonesty expert accused of dishonesty - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36424090 - June 2023 (201 comments)
Data Falsificada (Part 1): “Clusterfake” – Data Colada - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36374255 - June 2023 (7 comments)
Noted study in psychology fails to replicate, crumbles with evidence of fraud - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28264097 - Aug 2021 (102 comments)
A Big Study About Honesty Turns Out to Be Based on Fake Data - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28257860 - Aug 2021 (91 comments)
Evidence of fraud in an influential field experiment about dishonesty - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28210642 - Aug 2021 (51 comments)
Re: Data sleuths who spotted research misconduct cleared of defamation
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
Even if it is a Nobel prize winner like Jennifer Doudna?
Well the guy who invented lobotomy got one of those. Or the guy who invented microcredit. To not even venture in the peace nobel prizes area, where getting one is probably indicative of being evil.
Yeah, and when you see a Nobel prize winner you must be assuming it's a bullshit grifter.
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#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
Even if it is a Nobel prize winner like Jennifer Doudna?
It's hard to generalize. The whole field of behavioural intelligence has lots of fake/unrepeatable studies. Even Kahneman, who got a Economics Nobel has this issue: https://retractionwatch.com/2017/02/20/placed-much-faith-und...
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#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's scary, really. Having no money for this means you can't afford to fight these criminal crooks. Is this how this works in europe too?
In Europe, the losing party of a lawsuit generally has to pay for the winner's legal expenses ("English rule"). Never had to go to court so I don't know what you do about the expenses in the meanwhile, but at least there's light at the end of the tunnel when someone sues you just for the heck of it.
My (thankfully very little) experience in Italy is for civil litigations at least (where it is rare that one of the two parties get 100% reason) expenses are usually compensated (i.e. every party pays their own ones), in the more rare case where all expenses are paid by the succumbing party, what is liquidated is not really what has been paid, but rather what the expenses would be along some sort of tariff.
If your solicitor/lawyer is a famous (presumably very good as you won) one, it is likely that the amount you spend is much higher than what the judge condemned the other party to reimburse you.
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#96While a favorable ruling for the Data Colada defendants seemed incredibly likely in the end (and of course being dismissed pre-trial before discovery is a good thing). But it still took over a year, and consisted of several pre-trial hearings with multiple back and forths between them. If I ctrl-f https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mad.259... I see Pyle (their lawyer) listed 11 times. All the motion…
I'm sure there's counterdamages and he can take a percentage
Re: Data sleuths who spotted research misconduct cleared of defamation
#97While a favorable ruling for the Data Colada defendants seemed incredibly likely in the end (and of course being dismissed pre-trial before discovery is a good thing). But it still took over a year, and consisted of several pre-trial hearings with multiple back and forths between them. If I ctrl-f https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mad.259... I see Pyle (their lawyer) listed 11 times. All the motion…
You might recover some of your legal costs from your opponent, but the disruption to your life will not be compensated.
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#98In my opinion, defamation law is not fit for purpose, it's far too easy for rich people with axes to grind to sue their accusers in an attempt to stifle speech by putting a price on their words. Anti-SLAPP motions are supposed to fix this by allowing fee shifting, but they only exist in a handful of states, and I'm still not 100% sure how effective that alone can be at restoring freedom of speech[0]. Until such time…
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#99We're lucky to have hard-headed people willing to put up with legal threats and bullying tactics. I'm not sure I'd have the spine for it. It reminds me of when Ben Goldacre was sued [0] which luckily his publisher covered the costs for. [0] https://www.badscience.net/files/The-Doctor-Will-Sue-You-Now...
The problem is being able to sue for something like defamation. At the extreme, like happens in Brazil, innocent people are sent to jail for criticizing politicians. https://mises.org/mises-wire/rothbard-suits-defamation
1) this is a college
2) it was about research, fundamental to the mission of higher education
3) it was fraud, not error
4) It was HARVARD, exalted bastion of elite colleges, the most prestigious university in the US
I get Harvard is always more about influence and an insiders club rather than any real academic work, but still ... So many heads should roll over this.
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#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's scary, really. Having no money for this means you can't afford to fight these criminal crooks. Is this how this works in europe too?
No, where I live (Germany) you usually have a legal insurance to cover this. The costs are around 30€ per month in my case.