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Consent-O-Matic – automatically fills ubiquitous pop-ups with your preferences

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Re: Consent-O-Matic – automatically fills ubiquitous pop-ups with your preferences

#91

I like this, but would like it to avoid the loading time of the consent popups. Too often, the consent dialogue takes over a second to load, and when you finally click 'accept' there is a little spinner for what seems like ages before the dialogue goes away and you get to see the content you came to see. Can we simply detect the "<script src=consent.js..." tag, and simply not load it for the most common and annoying…

In the case that the popup doesn't load/the user never makes a choice, what is the cookie behavior?

How about if you hit the "x" button on the cookie popup instead of either "accept all" or "reject all"?

My assumption is that, despite what the law says/is meant to do, doing anything than going through the checklist will result in all cookies being enabled.

Re: Consent-O-Matic – automatically fills ubiquitous pop-ups with your preferences

#92

'I still don't care about cookies' works on almsot every website I browse. This extension on the other hand used to work maybe on a third, don't know if it improved but I would suggest the first if you're fed up with the cookie popup.

> 'I still don't care about cookies' if i recall this just closes the cookie popup but if you want some functionality you may need to accept some basic cookie like "remember me" for logging in, etc? this is what the extension is great for not sure if you can use both

Sites do not need to ask for consent for a login cookie or anything else that is strictily required to provide the asked for service.

Re: Consent-O-Matic – automatically fills ubiquitous pop-ups with your preferences

#93

I believe ublock origin blocks these via the annoyances filters, but just the popup element without setting the cookie. I haven't really looked into it.

The issue is that some sites will not work until you made a decision in the cookie pop-up. So then I have to reload the page without blocking, reject the cookies, and then reload the page with blocking... So for now I disabled the blocking of cookie pop-ups and I let C-O-M automatically reject cookies for me.

> The issue is that some sites will not work until you made a decision in the cookie pop-up. So then I have to reload the page without blocking, reject the cookies, and then reload the page with blocking...

My solution in these cases is to leave the website in question and do something that doesn't involve getting abused.

Re: Consent-O-Matic – automatically fills ubiquitous pop-ups with your preferences

#94
post #41

The tracking pop-ups used to be the scapegoat of UX but these days the experience is broken by "are you a robot" walls, subscribe to my blog walls, paywalls, your ip is from the wrong country walls, login walls and other all kind of wall. These days when I see a link to a news outlet or a blog that intend to consume seriously, I just use archive.is. It removes all the annoyances, it's brilliant.

... except when archive.is itself presents you with one of those walls because you are using a browser that is not the latest Chrome.

Re: Consent-O-Matic – automatically fills ubiquitous pop-ups with your preferences

#95
post #66

With how aggressive websites are in shoving popups down our throats for every little random thing, we need an in-browser AI bot to get rid of them appropriately. It's leaking too. I got a popup on my keyboard on my phone yesterday, and literally thought "this is too much, I wish I was dead" (I'm doing fine, just an intrusive thought :). Time to dial it back in folks. It is unbearable.

The actual problem is not the popups, it's that websites have so much spyware crap on them that you need all those warnings.

If only there were some way to eliminate that need for warnings....

Re: Consent-O-Matic – automatically fills ubiquitous pop-ups with your preferences

#96
post #70

Asking genuinely as I never experimented myself -- Does the Internet experience in general cripple if one rejects the cookies on all websites? Or there is very little loss of functionality? I often allow 'essential cookies'. Would go to 'reject all' if that works fine.

For years my own practice on sites that impose cookie pop-ups has been:

- Zap that element (uBo element zapper or custom CSS style rule via Stylus).

- Globally deny ALL cookies for that site, via uMatrix.

Note that uMatrix (and AFAIU Fireox) already block all third party cookies. This just makes that prejudice global to the site itself.

The number of sites for which I require some level of state preservation is parlous few. Hacker News itself is most of them, my Fediverse home the other.

(I largely don't use the Internet for commerce. That's always struck me as a bad idea, getting worse. If I cared ... another very small number of exceptions would deal with that.)

Re: Consent-O-Matic – automatically fills ubiquitous pop-ups with your preferences

#97
post #70

Asking genuinely as I never experimented myself -- Does the Internet experience in general cripple if one rejects the cookies on all websites? Or there is very little loss of functionality? I often allow 'essential cookies'. Would go to 'reject all' if that works fine.

Not really. You might need to login everytime, or on shops you will lose your cart.

Storing login tokens and cart information falls under "legitimate interest", which does not need consent. They just aren't allowed to use that information to do anything else with it.

I've rejected all optional cookies/tracking for many years and I've never noticed any missing functionality.

Re: Consent-O-Matic – automatically fills ubiquitous pop-ups with your preferences

#99
post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And they will mark all the advertising cookies as "Legitimate interest", as they've already started to do that with the confirmation prompts. The "legitimate interest" of selling you shit you don't want and selling your interests to third parties.

Would this get past the GDPR? I get the defeatism, there are powerful actors, but it doesn't mean we shouldn't try to improve the situation.

Isn't this one of those things that is going to require a landmark case?

Re: Consent-O-Matic – automatically fills ubiquitous pop-ups with your preferences

#100

With GDPR conform cookie consent popups/banners, managing ones preferences is actually very easy. First time visiting a website just click decline and all is good. Unless of course we are talking about websites, which only pretend to be conforming, but are actually intentionally not. I say intentionally, because it is way more likely, than everyone responsible at a company having lived under a rock for the last ... w…

On my pension provider's website I get the cookie consent warning every time I visit (whether I decline or accept). Even more annoyingly, this happens in the iOS app of the provider (which has a webview).

EU regulations like this are so poorly thought-out. They should have just banned nefarious tracking cookies outright. The EU never seems to understand the practical consequences of their technical regulation.

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