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Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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I certainly do. That said, I struggle to find another browser that's any better and most are worse. So I accept Firefox as the lesser evil.

Safari. That's the only browser I really use.

With the massive tide of browsers converting to Chromium under the hood, I wonder how long Apple can hold out. Fingers crossed they keep allocating budget for it.

Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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Firefox is still working great for me, and I intend to keep using it for the foreseeable future. I don't know what it might take for people to migrate away from Chrome en masse, but the alternative is there.

Mozilla is slowly turning to ad company too. Let's see what future brings us.

I look forward to Verso

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41215727

Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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Have been using Firefox for a long time, no issues, though long ago when I had little memory, Chrome was using less of it. Firefox also has HTTPS-only mode, encrypted DNS without fallbacks, supports SOCKS and Encrypted Client Hello (although almost no website support it). However, it is better to just buy more memory (unless you are lucky to use Apple products). Regarding analytics, I believe browsers should take use…

> Every new web API should guarantee that it doesn't provide more fingerprinting data or hides the data behind a permission.

FWIW, it's practically impossible to provide that guarantee because the API necessarily provides at least the data point of, "Did they select an option in the permission notification?" ("If yes, what option was selected?" etc.)

It's often said that the only solution to this is regulation and there seems to be a good case for that perspective.

Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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I've tried brave and Firefox on mobile (android) and I've tried Safari on MacOs. I still just prefer Chrome, it's just a bit better. So I use it with third-party cookies turned off, which is easily (and transparently) done using the settings menu. I can also turn off this "related websites" thing. So what exactly is the problem? All major browsers have allowed users to turn off 3P cookies for years.

Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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Mozilla is slowly turning to ad company too. Let's see what future brings us.

And the recent antitrust ruling against Google might see Mozilla lose like 80% of their revenue...

A sane company would then give the boot to their overpaid CEO and hire back talented developers.

https://lunduke.locals.com/post/5053290/mozilla-2023-annual-...

Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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That's not an option unless you're an Apple user, though.

I can't say what it's like on Linux or Windows, but the Duck browser is pretty good. It's my second choice. On Macs and iOS, and iPadOS, it's clunkier than Safari, but less clunky than Firefox. Perhaps the Windows experience is similar.

What does “clunky” even mean in this context?

Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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Have been using Firefox for a long time, no issues, though long ago when I had little memory, Chrome was using less of it. Firefox also has HTTPS-only mode, encrypted DNS without fallbacks, supports SOCKS and Encrypted Client Hello (although almost no website support it). However, it is better to just buy more memory (unless you are lucky to use Apple products). Regarding analytics, I believe browsers should take use…

> Regarding analytics, I believe browsers should take user's side and do not cooperate with marketing companies

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40703546 - from 2 months ago

Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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Firefox is still working great for me, and I intend to keep using it for the foreseeable future. I don't know what it might take for people to migrate away from Chrome en masse, but the alternative is there.

Firefox is usually great for me, but with Chromium-based browsers having such a massive market share monopoly I do occasionally find a website that doesn't work properly on Firefox. But, I will stick with Firefox as long as possible.

Do you have any recent examples? It's more often I see websites that claim they don't work with firefox but actually do if you change your user agent.

Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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Have been using Firefox for a long time, no issues, though long ago when I had little memory, Chrome was using less of it. Firefox also has HTTPS-only mode, encrypted DNS without fallbacks, supports SOCKS and Encrypted Client Hello (although almost no website support it). However, it is better to just buy more memory (unless you are lucky to use Apple products). Regarding analytics, I believe browsers should take use…

> Every new web API should guarantee that it doesn't provide more fingerprinting data or hides the data behind a permission. FWIW, it's practically impossible to provide that guarantee because the API necessarily provides at least the data point of, "Did they select an option in the permission notification?" ("If yes, what option was selected?" etc.) It's often said that the only solution to this is regulation and th…

> API necessarily provides at least the data point of, "Did they select an option in the permission notification?"

If a bird app (or, heck, pancake recipe site) asked for WebRTC or GPU access I would be rightfully suspicious. It's a shame these things don't happen.

Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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post #97

Have been using Firefox for a long time, no issues, though long ago when I had little memory, Chrome was using less of it. Firefox also has HTTPS-only mode, encrypted DNS without fallbacks, supports SOCKS and Encrypted Client Hello (although almost no website support it). However, it is better to just buy more memory (unless you are lucky to use Apple products). Regarding analytics, I believe browsers should take use…

> Regarding analytics, I believe browsers should take user's side and do not cooperate with marketing companies https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40703546 - from 2 months ago

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40966312 - 20 days ago.

In light of that acquisition, this also seems related. Firefox is the best choice but Mozilla is the biggest reason why people aren't using it and shit like this doesn't help.

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