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Re: Amazon Still Has a Counterfeit Problem

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Post by HeatrayEnjoyer »

x0x0 wrote: post #83
MattSteelblade wrote: post #63

My wife purchased a Stanley cup through Amazon and 5 months later its thermal regulation stopped working. She contacted Stanley about their lifetime warranty and after some back and forth with Stanley's rep, they determined that the item was counterfeit and because Amazon is not one of their authorized resellers there wasn't anything they would do. This was purchased through the "Stanley" store but was fulfilled by a…

btw, they seal the vacuum in those things with lead. If shoddy workmanship is in evidence, you may want to discontinue using it.

Why lead?

Re: Amazon Still Has a Counterfeit Problem

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Post by HeatrayEnjoyer »

sandworm101 wrote: post #85
lokar wrote: post #75

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nominative_use

>> The user does nothing to suggest sponsorship or endorsement by the trademark holder. HP would say that "compatible with HP printers" goes well beyond nominative. Per HP documentation, HP printers are only compatible with HP-licensed ink. So anyone saying "compatible with HP" is incorrectly stating they are licensed by HP. Try selling a cupholder, or a cup, that is "compatible with Ferrari" and you should expect la…

HP and Ferrari are not the oracles of what can be compatible with their products or not. Compatibility is a physical trait, not something you can license or gatekeep.

Re: Amazon Still Has a Counterfeit Problem

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Post by martin8412 »

HeatrayEnjoyer wrote: post #91
x0x0 wrote: post #83

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btw, they seal the vacuum in those things with lead. If shoddy workmanship is in evidence, you may want to discontinue using it.

Why lead?

They use lead pipes in the UK. Why I don't know, but I guess it's got some properties that make it ideal for keeping water where it's supposed to be.

Re: Amazon Still Has a Counterfeit Problem

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Post by [deleted] »

snakeyjake wrote: post #88
MattSteelblade wrote: post #63

My wife purchased a Stanley cup through Amazon and 5 months later its thermal regulation stopped working. She contacted Stanley about their lifetime warranty and after some back and forth with Stanley's rep, they determined that the item was counterfeit and because Amazon is not one of their authorized resellers there wasn't anything they would do. This was purchased through the "Stanley" store but was fulfilled by a…

>they determined that the item was counterfeit and because Amazon is not one of their authorized resellers Amazon is an authorized retailer of Stanley 1913 products. They determined that the item was counterfeit because you did not purchase it from Amazon.com you purchased it via Amazon.com from a third-party. My Amazon account was created in 1998 and since 2008-ish I have barely entered any physical stores due to me…

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Re: Amazon Still Has a Counterfeit Problem

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Post by radicality »

AnotherGoodName wrote: post #28
michaelt wrote: post #24

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Come to the UK where Amazon offers 512GB flash drives for £15 [1] [1] https://www.amazon.co.uk/512GB-High-Waterproof-Compatible-Co...

Ooof. I honestly don’t know how you can buy a usb thumb drive anymore. Even when you pay the right price you might still get a scam.

For electronics, some reputable places are B&H, Digikey, Mouser

Re: Amazon Still Has a Counterfeit Problem

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Post by jghn »

snakeyjake wrote: post #88
MattSteelblade wrote: post #63

My wife purchased a Stanley cup through Amazon and 5 months later its thermal regulation stopped working. She contacted Stanley about their lifetime warranty and after some back and forth with Stanley's rep, they determined that the item was counterfeit and because Amazon is not one of their authorized resellers there wasn't anything they would do. This was purchased through the "Stanley" store but was fulfilled by a…

>they determined that the item was counterfeit and because Amazon is not one of their authorized resellers Amazon is an authorized retailer of Stanley 1913 products. They determined that the item was counterfeit because you did not purchase it from Amazon.com you purchased it via Amazon.com from a third-party. My Amazon account was created in 1998 and since 2008-ish I have barely entered any physical stores due to me…

> that has been fulfilled by a third party without my knowledge can be counted on zero fingers.

Since they commingle products at the warehouse level and handle *actual* fulfillment at the SKU level and not the vendor level - how do you know this?

At the warehouse there's a bin of widgets that are all supposedly the same. Regardless of who the vendor is purported to be when you buy it, if it's coming from that warehouse it's coming from that bin of widgets.

Re: Amazon Still Has a Counterfeit Problem

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Post by jerf »

throwaway48476 wrote: post #73
jerf wrote: post #37

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"Ordered 2 flash drives both are probably counterfeit the first 1-2gb of write are at spec and then the speed drops to 1/3 of spec." If you're writing to them constantly, that doesn't prove they are counterfeit. They will thermally throttle. Naturally, specs don't talk so much about that part. I have an older one that throttles down to almost nothing, but it is still technically writing correctly. I don't use it much…

This has nothing to do with heat. Almost all SSD's have an SLC mode where part of the drive is operated in fast SLC mode. After the SLC cache is filled it will write to the slower TLC/QLC area. Any SSD benchmark will show this. SMR hard drives also do this.

SSDs I know about, but is that true of every USB flash drive? Or any?

And it definitely sometimes has to do with heat, or I couldn't speed my drive up on-the-fly by cooling it.

Re: Amazon Still Has a Counterfeit Problem

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Post by throwaway48476 »

jerf wrote: post #97
throwaway48476 wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This has nothing to do with heat. Almost all SSD's have an SLC mode where part of the drive is operated in fast SLC mode. After the SLC cache is filled it will write to the slower TLC/QLC area. Any SSD benchmark will show this. SMR hard drives also do this.

SSDs I know about, but is that true of every USB flash drive? Or any? And it definitely sometimes has to do with heat, or I couldn't speed my drive up on-the-fly by cooling it.

Only the controller throttles from heat, not the NAND. Sometimes they're co packaged in USB drives.

Re: Amazon Still Has a Counterfeit Problem

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Post by FireBeyond »

ProllyInfamous wrote: post #50
the_snooze wrote: post #48

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Lots of places do price-matching. I can go to Best Buy and get Amazon pricing (for items sold directly by Amazon) without the Amazon BS.

Best Buy is a "go to" that even most smaller US cities can visit — and yes they will always price match [the clerk doesn't giveAF].

They've got a lot better. Years ago they'd have their own specific SKUs...

"Sorry, this Western Digital 7200rpm 2TB drive is a WD72002048-AMZN, and we sell the WD72002048-BBY, so we can't price match."

They got busted for having different prices if they detected you were hitting the website from a store (Wifi or terminal)... "I know you thought it was $109 when you looked online, but you must be mistaken, here, let's pull up the website, yup, $159".

There was a brief loophole for a while when Amazon allowed ad-hoc Marketplace items from users - find what you wanted on Best Buy's site, create a listing to sell it on Amazon for $x cheaper, and then show them that as the price match. Then they moved to "must be fulfilled by Amazon to be eligible".

Re: Amazon Still Has a Counterfeit Problem

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Post by snakeyjake »

jghn wrote: post #96
snakeyjake wrote: post #88

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>they determined that the item was counterfeit and because Amazon is not one of their authorized resellers Amazon is an authorized retailer of Stanley 1913 products. They determined that the item was counterfeit because you did not purchase it from Amazon.com you purchased it via Amazon.com from a third-party. My Amazon account was created in 1998 and since 2008-ish I have barely entered any physical stores due to me…

> that has been fulfilled by a third party without my knowledge can be counted on zero fingers. Since they commingle products at the warehouse level and handle *actual* fulfillment at the SKU level and not the vendor level - how do you know this? At the warehouse there's a bin of widgets that are all supposedly the same. Regardless of who the vendor is purported to be when you buy it, if it's coming from that warehou…

>Since they commingle products at the warehouse level and handle actual fulfillment at the SKU level and not the vendor level - how do you know this?

Because Amazon does not commingle first and third-party inventory and I do not buy, since it is so easy to avoid, from third parties (or drop shippers) unless it is an extremely niche item like a 0.1" to 0.025" 10-pin header adapter.

Unless, of course, they are lying. Do you have evidence they are lying?

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