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Re: The Monospace Web

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Typography is so difficult on the web due to lack of support for things CSS textbox-trim https://github.com/jantimon/text-box-trim-examples You can see that even on this website, if you click "Debug Mode" (top right) and notice that later in the page, the headings and body copy begin to drift out of vertical alignment (against the background grid).

Wow something Safari has already built and others haven’t.

Typography improvements are always pretty high on Apple's priority list

Re: The Monospace Web

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

GameFAQ was enough! FOUND IT! Thank you! https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/snes/588741-super-metroid/faqs...

this gets discussed, or at least mentioned, often on hn, e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28651093 (this very faq) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40773880 (jart's commit) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40605970 (tom7's gnujpl) and bonus: recently i've been enjoying http://arlyle.sdf.org/ (unfortunately, links do not work in preformatted text on hn)

> unfortunately

Don't worry; I pasted your words

into vi just to experience their

fully justified bricktext glory.

Re: The Monospace Web

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Monospace doesn't bother me. Is the hard line endings that bother me. Someone with their "retro" web site that, essentially, uses pre tags. You get a wall of text, in a small font on the phone, reader view doesn't work, and if you tilt is sideways, you're as likely to get scrollbars as not. Nowadays this is also my singular complaint with tech mailing lists. The hard line endings and rigid layout.

what's the thing with scroll bars? (curious)

I waz wondering, myself. Nobody I know doing retro/smolweb work is implementing scroll bars. They"re against the general spirit of the movement.

Re: The Monospace Web

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Alright, before I continue my comment. I love the look and overall feel of the website. From an aesthetics point of view, I think it looks awesome. However... this sentence > Maybe we’re just brainwashed from spending years in terminals? Made me go ... Ugh... Yes, I very much think so. To be fair, they do a fairly good job with the monospaced font they are using on this website, which is fairly legible. They also see…

OTOH, I spend way more time per week reading typewritten mss (some with handwritten greek) that have something to say, than I do reading typographically best-practiced word salads...

Re: The Monospace Web

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Alright, before I continue my comment. I love the look and overall feel of the website. From an aesthetics point of view, I think it looks awesome. However... this sentence > Maybe we’re just brainwashed from spending years in terminals? Made me go ... Ugh... Yes, I very much think so. To be fair, they do a fairly good job with the monospaced font they are using on this website, which is fairly legible. They also see…

OTOH, I spend way more time per week reading typewritten mss (some with handwritten greek) that have something to say, than I do reading typographically best-practiced word salads...

> typewritten mss (some with handwritten greek)

Not sure what you mean by that.

Also, just because you spend a lot of time reading information formatted with monospaced fonts doesn't mean they are the best way for you to receive that information.

Re: The Monospace Web

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The presentation page dearly needs colour. Even if you emulate terminal feeling, you need to use colour.

The content is text. I know we've gotten used to the general clown-vomit look of the modern web, but come on. This site is more of an ebook than anything, no sense in over-complicating it.

Re: The Monospace Web

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It looks nice, and I'm glad that it's semantic and responsive, but the fundamental problem is that monospace just isn't great for body text. I've read blog posts on multiple sites with monospaced body text, it's okay, but proportional really is the way to go in my opinion.

Out of curiosity, what font would you prefer for body text? I use monospace on my own blog because it plays nice with my poor vision and scaling settings, but I am always curious about improved readability for all, since accesability is important to me.

Re: The Monospace Web

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

OTOH, I spend way more time per week reading typewritten mss (some with handwritten greek) that have something to say, than I do reading typographically best-practiced word salads...

> typewritten mss (some with handwritten greek) Not sure what you mean by that. Also, just because you spend a lot of time reading information formatted with monospaced fonts doesn't mean they are the best way for you to receive that information.

They may not be the theoretical best way, but let's not let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

If you have something to say, I have nothing against improving its typography.

If not, I'd argue for concentrating on spending effort finding, not a better typography, but better words.

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> Not sure what you mean by that.

Older research papers were often written with typewriters, leaving blank spots on the page for formulae, which were then (to a greater or lesser degree) put in in a second pass, with methods ranging from straight freehand to using drafting tools for lettering them.

eg (1951) https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_memorand... p13

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