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Anthropic Claude 3.5 can create icalendar files, so I did this

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Re: Anthropic Claude 3.5 can create icalendar files, so I did this

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Post by onlyrealcuzzo »

wenc wrote: post #3

You just have to double check the results whenever you tell Claude to extract lists and data. 99.9% of it will be correct, but sometimes 1 or 2 records are off. This kind of error is especially hard to notice because you're so impressed that Claude managed to do the extract task at all -- plus the results look wholly plausible upon eyeballing -- that you wouldn't expect anything to be wrong at all. But LLMs can get t…

> 99.9% of it will be correct, but sometimes 1 or 2 records are off. This kind of error is especially hard to notice because you're so impressed that Claude managed to do the extract task at all -- plus the results look wholly plausible upon eyeballing -- that you wouldn't expect anything to be wrong at all.

That's far better than I would do on my own.

I doubt I'd even be 99% accurate.

If it's really 99.9% accurate for something like this - I'd gladly take it.

Re: Anthropic Claude 3.5 can create icalendar files, so I did this

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Post by Lerc »

cj wrote: post #75
stavros wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're getting into the definition of trust, but to me trust means exactly "I don't need to verify". If I say I trust you to write correct code, I don't mean "I'm sure your mistakes won't be intentional", I mean "I'm sure you won't have mistakes". If I need to check your code for mistakes, I don't trust you to write correct code. I don't know anyone who will hear "I trust you to write correct code, now let me make sur…

“I trust that you believe your code is correct, now let’s double check”. Or maybe the proverb needs to be rewritten as “feign trust and verify”

Or assume good faith but, since anyone can make mistakes, check the work anyway.

That's a bit wordy but I'm sure someone can come up with a pithy phrase to encapsulate the idea.

Re: Anthropic Claude 3.5 can create icalendar files, so I did this

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Post by sen »

stavros wrote: post #49
sen wrote: post #19

I did a similar thing with ChatGPT-4o giving it a txt file list of movie names, and it returned the release date of each one, then gave me an iCal file of all those movies with their release dates as recurring yearly anniversary events so I can watch my favorite movies on their anniversary. I’ve done it for a few friends as well now and it’s got a 100% success rate so far, across over 100 total movie names.

Did you go back and check all the dates?

Yup, we tried scraping IMDB for dates too to compare which method was easiest/best and it was spot on (and easier!). I guess the release dates are mentioned enough around the web that it has enough reference. It does use the US release dates for everything though which was one issue, but that’s almost always the first release for major movies anyway.

Re: Anthropic Claude 3.5 can create icalendar files, so I did this

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Post by ljm »

disillusioned wrote: post #25
wenc wrote: post #3

You just have to double check the results whenever you tell Claude to extract lists and data. 99.9% of it will be correct, but sometimes 1 or 2 records are off. This kind of error is especially hard to notice because you're so impressed that Claude managed to do the extract task at all -- plus the results look wholly plausible upon eyeballing -- that you wouldn't expect anything to be wrong at all. But LLMs can get t…

The "off by one" predilection of LLMs is going to lead to this massive erosion of trust in whatever "Truth" is supposed to be, and it's terrifying and going to make for a bumpy couple of years. (Or the complete collapse of objective knowledge, on a long enough time horizon.) It's one thing to ask an LLM when George Washington was born, and have it return "May 20, 2020." It's another thing to ask it, and have it matte…

I believe it’s going to become counter productive sooner than anyone might think, and in fairly frustrating ways. I can see a class of programmers trading their affinity with the skill for a structurally unstable crutch.

I was using Perplexity with Claude 3.5 and asked it how I would achieve some task with langchain and it gleefully spat out some code examples and explanations. It turns out they were all completely fabricated (easy to tell because I had the docs open and none of the functions it referred to existed), and when asked to clarify it just replied “yeah this is just how I imagine it would work.”

Re: Anthropic Claude 3.5 can create icalendar files, so I did this

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Post by mathgeek »

RandomThoughts3 wrote: post #74
Diti wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

French armed forces have a better version of this saying. “Trust does not exclude control.” They’re still going to check for explosives under cars that want to park in French embassies.

It’s interesting to notice that etymologically speaking the French and English words have completely different roots and therefore evokes slightly different ideas which are lost in translation. Trust shares its root with truth . It’s directly related to believing in the veracity of something. Confiance comes from the Latin confidere which means depositing something to someone while having faith they are going to take…

> Trust shares its root with truth. It’s directly related to believing in the veracity of something.

Would you mind sharing your reference on that? All the etymology sites I rely on seem to place the root in words that end up at "solid" or "comfort".

Re: Anthropic Claude 3.5 can create icalendar files, so I did this

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Post by ndr_ »

I use this trick for book announcements on Amazon: some ambitious book releases never get released, so I am not a fan of buying before the release. With LLM support, I'll add the release date given by Amazon to my calendar - quickly. The file download feature of my Workbenches helps with that: https://ndurner.github.io/chatbots-update

Re: Anthropic Claude 3.5 can create icalendar files, so I did this

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Post by TeMPOraL »

franze wrote: post #68

> I tried the exact same thing in ChatGPT -- it identified the dates in the images, but it was unable to create an .ics file. However, it did give me some Python code to create the ics file for me. well i constantly let ChatGPT create my calendar entries, either via Google Calendar links or ics files or QR codes. Don't know what went wrong there.

Back when I last did it with GPT-4-Turbo, asking for an ICS file would get it to refuse on the grounds that it cannot make a file. Asking for encoding in iCal fomat, however, would make it output into a Markdown code block, which I'd then copy-paste into Notepad and save as ICS.

These days, you may also try asking it to "use Python" for the purpose, in which case it will make you the file (by writing code that writes the file and executing it), but it's likely to make more mistakes because it has to encode the result into a Python string or array.

Re: Anthropic Claude 3.5 can create icalendar files, so I did this

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Post by troupo »

wenc wrote: post #3

You just have to double check the results whenever you tell Claude to extract lists and data. 99.9% of it will be correct, but sometimes 1 or 2 records are off. This kind of error is especially hard to notice because you're so impressed that Claude managed to do the extract task at all -- plus the results look wholly plausible upon eyeballing -- that you wouldn't expect anything to be wrong at all. But LLMs can get t…

> You just have to double check the results whenever you tell Claude to extract lists and data.

There's also the problem that they are tuned to be overly helpful. I tried a similar thing described in the OG article with some non-English data. I could not stop Claude from "helpfully" translating chunks of data into English.

"include description from the image" would cause it to translate it, and "include description from the image, do not translate or summarize it" would cause it to just skip it.

Re: Anthropic Claude 3.5 can create icalendar files, so I did this

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Post by RandomThoughts3 »

mathgeek wrote: post #95
RandomThoughts3 wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s interesting to notice that etymologically speaking the French and English words have completely different roots and therefore evokes slightly different ideas which are lost in translation. Trust shares its root with truth . It’s directly related to believing in the veracity of something. Confiance comes from the Latin confidere which means depositing something to someone while having faith they are going to take…

> Trust shares its root with truth. It’s directly related to believing in the veracity of something. Would you mind sharing your reference on that? All the etymology sites I rely on seem to place the root in words that end up at "solid" or "comfort".

Definitely and that’s not incompatible with what I’m saying.

You are indeed looking far back to the Proto-Indo-European where words are very different and sometimes a bit of guesses.

If you look at the whole tree, you will see that both trust, truth and true share common Germanic roots (that’s pretty obvious by looking at them) which is indeed linked with words meaning “solid” and then “promise, contract”.

What’s interesting is that the root is shared between “truth” and “trust” while in French it’s not (vérité from veritas vs confiance from confere).

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