Why does this have to be curl | sh if there’s a checkbox in the settings for this specific setting? Do you value your privacy so much that you’re ready to run arbitrary script directly from internet?
Make Firefox Private Again
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#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
> They can find other business models other than advertisement. The awful thing is, I'm not sure they can. Lots of sites turned to shitty ads and clickbait because it makes lots of money, but I've followed some passionate writers and journalists who decided to stick to their guns and focus on quality content with a reasonable subscription price. I don't follow any of them anymore, because they all either want out of…
> The awful thing is, I'm not sure they can. It might be one of those things that are extremely painful at first, but becomes better when things have settled down. All that sites that have turned to clickbait and scammy ads, wouldn't we be better of without them? If the ad market where to collapse the real newspapers, who still have actual subscribers would still be around, things like the BBC and other local and tax…
It's not a problem if you don't go to the parts of the web that have ads. I spend my time online on places like GitHub that operate as ad-free commission-free gift economies. Environments that have ads, have nothing that I want. I don't care about what happens in them any more than I care about what happens in shantytowns. Why do you care? What pulls you into those dark Internet spaces?
Re: Make Firefox Private Again
#93Here's the Firefox CTO explaining the motivation behind the experiment controlled by this setting, and the measures taken to ensure that it actually is private: https://old.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/1e43w7v/a_word_abo...
He doesn't explain how it works though, or why it is private. Only that we should trust them.
Incidentally this was published just now! https://blog.mozilla.org/netpolicy/2024/08/22/ppa-update/
He also linked to this technical explainer, though I don't think that's necessarily written for a broader audience: https://github.com/mozilla/explainers/tree/main/ppa-experime...
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#94This is absolutely disgusting. Despite Mozilla's general decline, I always want to believe they're going to do the right thing by their users. But this is really hard to swallow. Advertising is unethical psychological manipulation, full stop. I don't care if the delivery or targeting mechanism is supposedly "privacy-preserving" (yeah, right). Ads themselves, even completely untargeted ads, need to go.
Then I think it's only fair for you to completely stop using ad-supported sites and services, right away. (Which will also mean that Firefox's treatment of ads will not affect you.)
What do you mean you don't want to sleep with me? It's a date! I paid for dinner!
- advertisers
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#95wasn't aware that 'anonym' existed. I don't care if PII is stripped or not. the answer to 'helping advertisers' or anything with advertisement metrics in any fashion is always 'No.' - training things so that there's better data on how to best manipulate our psyche / give people data to psychologically manipulate us in to buying/doing things is a hard 'No.' > Asked whether Mozilla has any concerns that its user base,…
Also advertising is certainly not the reason the web is free. It was free before the insane amount of advertising. Maybe for platforms like Youtube or similar sites advertising is part of their business model. But the primary reason here is foremost people creating content. That Youtube has insane infrastructure costs is secondary and we certainly don't need Browsers to help advertising at all. If it doesn't stay opt…
How can you say that the infrastructure costs are secondary?
How do you think that the video content is going to be stored and served if not through paid infrastructure?
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#96wasn't aware that 'anonym' existed. I don't care if PII is stripped or not. the answer to 'helping advertisers' or anything with advertisement metrics in any fashion is always 'No.' - training things so that there's better data on how to best manipulate our psyche / give people data to psychologically manipulate us in to buying/doing things is a hard 'No.' > Asked whether Mozilla has any concerns that its user base,…
Without advertisements, the internet would only have content worth paying for and content people want to share for reasons other than financial gain. How awful (/s).
Most people won't pay for content, no matter how good it is.
Especially for text content.
People still download or stream movies and TV series even though there are multiple high quality and official streaming platforms.
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#97I really don't like advertising. I use uBlock Origin in my browser, AdGuard on my phone and pi-hole in my home. I even take a seam ripper to my clothes to make sure no logos remain. But I understand that advertising is the only viable business model for much of the internet. (Browsing HN and seeing that the top comment for every paywalled article is a pirated link confirms that.) If advertising must exist, I'd prefer…
I personally don't care if 90% of websites which rely on advertising disappear or replace their monetization strategy with gated, paid access. I even think this is a good thing. As such, I will fight the ability of websites to monetize by tracking wherever I can.
This means that people without means will automatically be excluded from the internet.
Also most people don't want to pay for content.
This just means that 99.99% of the web will instantly disappear.
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#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
Then I think it's only fair for you to completely stop using ad-supported sites and services, right away. (Which will also mean that Firefox's treatment of ads will not affect you.)
What do you mean you don't want to sleep with me? It's a date! I paid for dinner! - advertisers
"It's not stealing, I'm just freely accessing your paid content"
- users
Re: Make Firefox Private Again
#99Why does this have to be curl | sh if there’s a checkbox in the settings for this specific setting? Do you value your privacy so much that you’re ready to run arbitrary script directly from internet?
OTOH the script is 2 lines long and perfectly readable/understandable.
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#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
So? Epiphany is based on WebKit now, KDE Browser doesn't exist anymore. (I needed to check it first.)
Its called Konqueror, and exists, but it uses a webkit fork now! Webkit was forked from KHTML which has been discontinued.
i guess we are both right.
thx for the clarification