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Re: Zed AI

#92
post #8

The main issue with these set of tools is that I mostly read and understand code more than writing it myself. Not enough attention is been given to this imbalance. It is impressive having an AI that can write code for you, but an AI that helps me understand which code we (as a team) should write would be much more useful.

No one should be submitting code that's difficult to understand, regardless of how it was 'written'. This problem exists just the same as a developer who's going to copy large blocks of StackOverflow without much thought.

Re: Zed AI

#93
post #70

I just want a fast programmable text editor with a native GUI and good defaults. But that seems really tough to find, for some reason. Zed is so close, but I’d much rather see a focus on the “programmable” part and let the AI and collaboration features emerge later out of rich extensibility (i.e. as plugins, perhaps even paid plugins) than have them built-in behind a sign-in and unknown future pricing model.

In the case of Zed it was always inevitable, a text editor doesn't raise >$10M in venture capital unless there's a plan to stuff it full of premium subscription features. Warp Terminal is a similar story, >$50M in funding for a terminal emulator of all things...

What I'd give to have a look at the roadmaps to see how they hope to 10x/100x VC investments with a text editor and terminal.

Re: Zed AI

#95
post #21

JetBrains ships a local, offline AI auto-complete in PyCharm. Sure it's limited, but it shows it can be done. It's a pity other companies aren't trying the same, especially this one that boasts about millisecond editing times. Edit: JetBrains, not IntelliJ. Auto-complete details - https://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2024/04/04/full-line-code-co...

Zed will hook into ollama as well; so you can run your own locally; just not as part of the same process (yet?).

Hooking into standard APIs like Ollama is definitely preferred (at least to me) because it means it’s more composable and modular. Very Unix-y. Lets you use whatever works for you instead of the vendor.

Re: Zed AI

#96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tried it with C#. It's not comparable to Copilot. If I've never used Copilot I might be slightly impressed.

I don’t see programming getting exponentially harder. So eventually local compute will catch up with programming needs and offline AI will be pretty good.

Local compute is also getting progressively harder to make faster. I have a CPU from 6 years ago and checked some benchmarks to see if upgrades would be worth it. It's a 90% increase in performance with a 27% improvement in single threaded. Pretty substantial but not exponential. GPUs are advancing more quickly than CPUs right now but I wouldn't be surprised if they hit a wall soon.

Re: Zed AI

#98
post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems like a non-sequitur? Why does LLM integration mean that Zed is less good of an editor for junior devs?

Right, LLM integration should be a huge boon for junior developers.

Not sure if it's what GP is talking about - but haven't you noticed how many juniors seem to be shooting themselves in the foot with LLMs these days, becoming over-reliant on it and gaining expertise slower?

Re: Zed AI

#99

JetBrains ships a local, offline AI auto-complete in PyCharm. Sure it's limited, but it shows it can be done. It's a pity other companies aren't trying the same, especially this one that boasts about millisecond editing times. Edit: JetBrains, not IntelliJ. Auto-complete details - https://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2024/04/04/full-line-code-co...

Maybe its because there's literally no point in using a local llm for code-completion. You'd be spending 90% of your time correcting it. Its barely worth it to use co-pilot.

Re: Zed AI

#100

I know I'm not the target market. I don't want my editor to have AI. I was really looking forward to trying Zed, but this just means I'll stick to VS/Code with the AI gung disabled. In general, if any product comes with "AI" I'm turned off by it.

I hope all our competitors find your answer inspirational!
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