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AI companies are pivoting from creating gods to building products

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Re: AI companies are pivoting from creating gods to building products

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I haven't found a use for it. What do you use it for?

It gives amazing medical advice and answers, way better than webmd or frankly even most primary care physicians ive seen.

Terrifying. You must like living dangerously.

Re: AI companies are pivoting from creating gods to building products

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One of my local car dealerships is using an chat system of some kind (probably an LLM?). It's awful and a complete waste of time. I'm not sure if LLMs are getting good use yet / general chatbots are good or ready for business use.

Who cares. I literally use ChatGPT 30 times a day. It answers incredibly complex queries along with citations I can verify. Isn’t “this not good enough yet” line getting old? There nothing else that can estimate the number of cinder blocks I need to use for a project and account for the volume of concrete required for it (while taking into consideration the actual available volume available in a cinder block and sett…

"I think the problem is you haven’t shifted your mindset to using AI correctly yet"

There is an indictment of AI "products" if I ever heard one

Re: AI companies are pivoting from creating gods to building products

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post #89

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I haven't found a use for it. What do you use it for?

It gives amazing medical advice and answers, way better than webmd or frankly even most primary care physicians ive seen.

Are you a doctor? On what basis are you evaluating medical advice?

Re: AI companies are pivoting from creating gods to building products

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of my local car dealerships is using an chat system of some kind (probably an LLM?). It's awful and a complete waste of time. I'm not sure if LLMs are getting good use yet / general chatbots are good or ready for business use.

Who cares. I literally use ChatGPT 30 times a day. It answers incredibly complex queries along with citations I can verify. Isn’t “this not good enough yet” line getting old? There nothing else that can estimate the number of cinder blocks I need to use for a project and account for the volume of concrete required for it (while taking into consideration the actual available volume available in a cinder block and sett…

Not sure if this is a sarcasm or "you are holding it wrong" moment.

Re: AI companies are pivoting from creating gods to building products

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of my local car dealerships is using an chat system of some kind (probably an LLM?). It's awful and a complete waste of time. I'm not sure if LLMs are getting good use yet / general chatbots are good or ready for business use.

Who cares. I literally use ChatGPT 30 times a day. It answers incredibly complex queries along with citations I can verify. Isn’t “this not good enough yet” line getting old? There nothing else that can estimate the number of cinder blocks I need to use for a project and account for the volume of concrete required for it (while taking into consideration the actual available volume available in a cinder block and sett…

It works for me, therefore it should work for everyone?

Re: AI companies are pivoting from creating gods to building products

#96

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Who cares. I literally use ChatGPT 30 times a day. It answers incredibly complex queries along with citations I can verify. Isn’t “this not good enough yet” line getting old? There nothing else that can estimate the number of cinder blocks I need to use for a project and account for the volume of concrete required for it (while taking into consideration the actual available volume available in a cinder block and sett…

"I think the problem is you haven’t shifted your mindset to using AI correctly yet" There is an indictment of AI "products" if I ever heard one

How come this spoon won't hold my soup? Don't tell me I'm holding it wrong!

Re: AI companies are pivoting from creating gods to building products

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Companies keep going at it the wrong way. Instead of saying "We have AI, let's find products we can make out of AI!" they should be saying, "What products do people want, let's use whatever tools we have (including maybe AI) to make them." The idea that a company is an AI company should be as ridiculous as a company being a Python company. "We are Python-first, have Python experts, and all of our products are made wi…

A ton of the industrial revolution was actually motivated by that input-driven thinking. You don't decide you want an Eiffel Tower from first principles, you consider "what is the coolest thing I can make out of wrought iron".

Re: AI companies are pivoting from creating gods to building products

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Who cares. I literally use ChatGPT 30 times a day. It answers incredibly complex queries along with citations I can verify. Isn’t “this not good enough yet” line getting old? There nothing else that can estimate the number of cinder blocks I need to use for a project and account for the volume of concrete required for it (while taking into consideration the actual available volume available in a cinder block and sett…

Not sure if this is a sarcasm or "you are holding it wrong" moment.

There’s skill involved in using these. Of course there is.

That doesn’t make them useless.

Re: AI companies are pivoting from creating gods to building products

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I’m building an integration platform. There’s a thousand ways to deeply embed AI throughout it, both to build integration workflows faster, and to help us build smarter API wrappers faster.

But AI has always been a secondary augmentation to the product itself. It’s a tool, it shouldn’t be the other way around.

Re: AI companies are pivoting from creating gods to building products

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> But when developers put AI in consumer products, people expect it to behave like software, which means that it needs to work deterministically. If your AI travel agent books vacations to the correct destination only 90% of the time, it won’t be successful. This is the fundamental problem that prevents generative AI from becoming a "foundational building block" for most products. Even with rigorous safety measures i…

I have a question for folks working heavily with AI blackboxes related to this - what are methods that companies use to test the quality of outputs? Testing the integration itself can be treated pretty much the same as testing around any third-party service, but what I've seen are some teams using models to test the output quality of models... which doesn't seem great instinctively
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