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Is working the counter at McDs something you add to a LinkedIn profile? Do people moving from the counter at McDs to BurgerKing use LinkedIn?
Such a classist comment
Is that a word now?
I was a 20-something dethroned dotcom ceo that went to work at mcdonald's (2000)
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Re: I was a 20-something dethroned dotcom ceo that went to work at mcdonald's (2000)
#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well that explains why he felt nobody appreciated his efforts. The first few weeks at a job like that you are pretty much just in the way. It takes some time to learn the routines and operate the equipment so you can work quickly without thinking.
Agree that’s kind of *^%% move, I’d have too much self respect to start working somewhere for a few weeks than bail. Doesn’t matter if it’s a food service job or a FAANG. McDonalds was doing him a solid by offering some kind of employment for a person presumably down on their luck with zero experience. Hiring people is a huge expense and risk even for a small franchise.
high turnover is common. he was not doing anyone a disservice.
Re: I was a 20-something dethroned dotcom ceo that went to work at mcdonald's (2000)
#93Honestly, I think he’s living the dream — no tech headaches, just flipping burgers and taking it easy. Really makes me think...
I don't understand why this was "dead". It's not a statement I fully agree with; but the insight isn't something I'd want to keep off of HN.
I believe that flagged+dead indicates people reported the comment to death, whereas just "dead" indicates the poster is shadowbanned.
Re: I was a 20-something dethroned dotcom ceo that went to work at mcdonald's (2000)
#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
McDonalds can fire you for any reason in my state. At any time. When you're renting yourself to authoritarian institutions like corporations, there is no "self respect" required for you to always take the best deal for yourself whenever possible.
> McDonalds can fire you for any reason in my state. At any time. Yeah but if you show up for your scheduled shifts and are on time, sober, don't steal, and are moderately competent, they won't.
The crossover between people with those qualities and the people who find themselves in a position where McDonald's is a good deal is quite small. Often times these people have been failed by society on a number of fronts and have a very different perspective on the arrangement. This isn't to absolve people of personal responsibility, but we are much more of a product of our environment than most of us realize.
Re: I was a 20-something dethroned dotcom ceo that went to work at mcdonald's (2000)
#95> Nobody thanked me. Do you think this is still true? This resonates with me. I used to work in tech, but I recently joined my family's brick-and-mortar business. No one says thank you, no one appreciates you. I find it amazing that this culture of thanklessness exists even in the US (I'm in India) in non-tech jobs. P.S. I worked at all fronts of the business before joining the management. Worked at the counter, as a…
Yep. (I'm in the US.) The transactionalization of aspects of both work and life is depressing. I think it's a confluence of multiple factors that may or may not be present in all circumstances: a lack of manners, a power imbalance, and/or a view that someone who provides a service is a widget rather than a human being.
Some data points:
- My next door neighbors in a small town residential neighborhood are poorer, but don't say "please" or "thank you" for anything.
- An entitled Brahmin dude I used to work with at a Big Name University™ grew up with a dozen servants never gave gratitude or used pleasantries.
- Some other employees at a MAANG I used to work for as well as other residents in the apartments I lived in had an attitude of "too cool for everyone else" and didn't use pleasantries.
Without rapport and humanity by showing a little real decency and compassion, life and business interactions become commoditized and cold, and that intangible cool or goodwill evaporates and nothing much holds people to each other or people to a brand.
Re: I was a 20-something dethroned dotcom ceo that went to work at mcdonald's (2000)
#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
Such a classist comment
Guy who makes $200,000 a year is aghast that some people actually work at McDonald's
I'm haven't worked at McDonalds for 20+ years, but I think that the top manager at each store is making $200k, and the top 4 are over $150k - it goes down fast below that though. I'm reasonable sure that if I had stayed at McDonalds I'd have never had a year where I made less than I made in tech. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad to be out, but they pay those they care about well enough, and there were some good things I miss.
Re: I was a 20-something dethroned dotcom ceo that went to work at mcdonald's (2000)
#97If his timeline and application are true, he was technically still the chairman of his company while working at McDonald's, if in name only. > 10/99-10/01: chairman, i-traffic (an agency.com company) > 10/00-10/00: counterperson, mcdonald's (4th & broadway, nyc) I sometimes think about going back to work at food service jobs after I retire, just to keep busy. I enjoyed those jobs as a high school and college student,…
Food service needs a lot of people to work the 2 hour lunch shift from 11-1 and then go home. You get out of the house, get to talk to real people. Doctors have noticed that people who sit around doing nothing tend to die earlier than those who stay busy, and people who talk to others also do better, so that 2 hour shift could add years to your lifespan. That you get some extra spending cash is a nice bonus, but not why you do it. (at 16 you do it because they are about all that will hire you and you need then money)
Re: I was a 20-something dethroned dotcom ceo that went to work at mcdonald's (2000)
#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
> somehow managed to get a job despite a lack of food service experience. I lasted a while—months, I think—but eventually got fired. Bit of a tangent; I switch between knowledge work and labor a bit, and the biggest mistake I see people make is not altering their caloric intake or sleep schedule.
Could you elaborate on that? Altering caloric intake and sleep schedule as a reaction to what? And how would you change between the two regimes? Increase/decrease how much? etc.
Not GP, but being on your feet all day will lead to needing more calories and sleep for proper recovery.
Re: I was a 20-something dethroned dotcom ceo that went to work at mcdonald's (2000)
#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
Guy who makes $200,000 a year is aghast that some people actually work at McDonald's
I'm haven't worked at McDonalds for 20+ years, but I think that the top manager at each store is making $200k, and the top 4 are over $150k - it goes down fast below that though. I'm reasonable sure that if I had stayed at McDonalds I'd have never had a year where I made less than I made in tech. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad to be out, but they pay those they care about well enough, and there were some good things I…
>I think that the top manager at each store is making $200k, and the top 4 are over $150k
Curious what this range is based on? According to ~3.8k self-reported salaries from Glassdoor, the McD manager salary ranges from $37k-$64k with a median of $48k.
Re: I was a 20-something dethroned dotcom ceo that went to work at mcdonald's (2000)
#100Honestly, I think he’s living the dream — no tech headaches, just flipping burgers and taking it easy. Really makes me think...
That was a plot point in American Beauty... got to say, at the point I was in my life when I saw it, I empathized with him.