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Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

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Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

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Post by dylan604 »

whyoh wrote: post #64
snapcaster wrote: post #45

Can an anti-reaction person explain what they find so distasteful about them? Is it that the other person wasn't willing to make the effort to type is seen as disrespectful? struggling to see what the problem is

I, just like the blog author, disable remote images in emails. So I wouldn't get the "intended experience" anyway. Actually, does anyone besides Outlook users get the intended experience here? Second, "reactions" are not part of the email culture or the standard email specs. It's unexpected and awkward. So it's not being "anti-reaction" in general, it's being against some feature that only works in MS email apps, whi…

> Second, "reactions" are not part of the email culture or the standard email specs. It's unexpected and awkward.

Another old dog refusing to learn a new trick. If you want to talk about not part of email culture, let's not forget images weren't part of the original. So people got over that. They embraced it just like they embraced HTML emails and everything else. You can stand in the middle of the stream, but it's just going to go right on by you

Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

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Post by olyjohn »

signal11 wrote: post #82
santoshalper wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't even mind reactions to email inside a corp network where it can be handled gracefully, but sending an email like that outside onto the public internet is absurd.

Gmail has had this feature since 2023: https://blog.google/products/gmail/gmail-emoji-reactions/

You keep posting this over and over. So what? Is it supposed the be okay because Google does it too?

Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

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Post by OJFord »

freitasm wrote: post #63
TeMPOraL wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree. Also, if the message proposes any action, it should be appropriate to reply with "Make it so.".

What is wrong with "Roger" and "Wilco"? These are shorter. And remind me of the voice chat program Roger Wilco too.

Well 'ack' is even shorter, and the common form of 'ACKNOWLEDGED' for such use. I've seen & used both ack & wilco in a technical/software chat context.

Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

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Post by dijit »

riiii wrote: post #88
somat wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are not wrong and I agree with you that this sort of bullshit is laughably unacceptable. Unfortunately nothing opt in ever gets wide adoption. So I expect to keep seeing these sort of infernal acts as people get bright but misguided ideas that require broad adoption to work. for example googles wifi cataloging does not work at all if to get cataloged you have to put "_cataloged" in your ssid.

> Unfortunately nothing opt in ever gets wide adoption Sharing your host's WiFi password with all your contacts should never get a wide adoption. It should never be an option anyway. It shows Microsoft's astonishing ignorance of security.

Well, actually Apple is doing something similar, and it's opt-in.

If you have a contact, they are in their settings, and they're nearby and they can see your wifi network, a prompt will appear on your phone which asks if you would like to share wifi credentials with them.

There's some foolery going on to stop it popping up if you're using the device normally, like you have to be in settings or the home screen - or recently unlock your phone or something... But it's very explicitly: opt-in.

Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

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Post by NoPicklez »

stratocumulus0 wrote: post #31

I remember seeing that some people in the corporate world put a capital J instead of a dot in some sentences. I first brushed this off as some artificial corporate level of politeness that's not too forward (the hook of a J does indeed look like a smiling face). Turns out that 4xA, the value of J in ASCII, is occupied by a smiley face in Wingdings. I still struggle to get it how did the Outlook email client know whic…

So funny, my mother would send me emails from work and I would see J every now and then. First letter of my first name is J so I kept thinking she was just referring to me but she was sending a smiley face

Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

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Post by akira2501 »

snapcaster wrote: post #45

Can an anti-reaction person explain what they find so distasteful about them? Is it that the other person wasn't willing to make the effort to type is seen as disrespectful? struggling to see what the problem is

I like using them but I hate that they leave the "campus" automatically.

Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

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Post by umbra07 »

valcargo wrote: post #56
yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps it would be better to ask, how do you expect people to communicate to you those things that would be expressed as reactions?

Using words. Same as here on Hacker News.

Ok

Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

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Post by adzm »

theamk wrote: post #77
lilyball wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps the emails have both html and plain text representations, and you've configured your client to only show the plain text version?

you almost got it! This was likely winmail.dat/TNEF[0], Microsoft's proprietary replacement of HTML. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_Neutral_Encapsulatio...

TNEF is a container/encapsulation format rather than a markup language. It can contain HTML as well as RTF and plain text.

Granted HTML rendering of email is full of quirks in Outlook

Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

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Post by bitwize »

stratocumulus0 wrote: post #31

I remember seeing that some people in the corporate world put a capital J instead of a dot in some sentences. I first brushed this off as some artificial corporate level of politeness that's not too forward (the hook of a J does indeed look like a smiling face). Turns out that 4xA, the value of J in ASCII, is occupied by a smiley face in Wingdings. I still struggle to get it how did the Outlook email client know whic…

The conversion from emoticons to wingding J's occurred at the server level. I've sent emails in Mutt through an exchange server that, when quoted back to me, had the ASCII smileys converted to J's.

Exchange converts all emails that go through it to HTML; it's wrapping the J in tags to select Wingdings. Some Exchange installations do not provide plain-text copies of emails sent through them.

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