Looks like they're developing their own Apache-licensed GUI framework for this, called GPUI. I think of text handling as one of the trickier parts of building such a framework, so one specifically made to support a text editor would seem to be a pretty good foundation for a general purpose GUI toolkit. I wonder if they (or someone else) will pursue it as an alternative to Qt.
Zed on Linux Is Here
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Re: Zed on Linux Is Here
#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
That sounds like an interesting feature. Could you provide a link that gives more information about it? I am not finding it in the docs.
I'm not seeing it in the docs, maybe I should write up a little something on my editing experience! Also to correct my self, I think I mistakenly said `modal` when I should have said `buffer` earlier. So searching across the project brings up your results in multiple buffers, each about 5 lines (expandable to more) and you can do all of your normal editing within each/all of the buffers. If I happen to write somethin…
That is a unique feature. Most editors I have used use the search as a way to jump to buffer locations of the matches.
Re: Zed on Linux Is Here
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
This comes across as rather entitled. They offer an easy installation path that works for most people. They also went out of their way to provide alternative installation methods and instructions [1]. All while gifting you and the world free and open source software. [1] https://zed.dev/docs/linux
My interest is not in using this text editor as a consumer, but in guiding software development culture in general, particularly when it comes to installation of Linux applications. Some talks I have given on this topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq1XqP4-qOo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwXixVcliP0 So, I think "entitled" is the wrong insult. "arrogant" would be more accurate.
"Opinionated" is more appropriate. Ignorance often accompanies arrogance. Opinion, to me, at least contains a degree of knowledge.
Re: Zed on Linux Is Here
#94Definitely looks pretty rough so far (running Debian GNOME) -- font rendering looks wonky, and resizing the window is slow and unresponsive. But I'm very optimistic for what's to come!
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#95I tried zed for a few weeks because I'm generally sympathetic to the "use a native app" idea vs Electron. I generally liked it and its UX but: 1. VSCode is pretty damn fast to be honest. Very rarely is my slowdown in my work VSCode loading. Maybe I don't open very large files? Probably 5k lines of typescript at most. 2. Integration with the Typescript language server was just not as good as VSCode. I can't pin down e…
I think people just have very different tolerances for latency and slowness. I keep trying different editors (including VS Code), and I always end up going back to Neovim because everything else just feels sluggish, to the point where it annoys me so much I'm willing to put up with all the configuration burden of Neovim because of it. I tried out Zed and it actually feels fast enough for me to consider switching.
Sublime Text 3 is still one of my favorite editors. I use VSCode lately because of its excellent "Remote SSH" integration - but when it comes to latency sublime has it beat.
Zed does not feel fast on my machine, which is a 13900K/128gb ram. It is running in xwayland though, so that could be part of the problem. It feels identical to vscode.
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#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have you had much success with VS Code's multiplayer extensions? I've found them buggy to the point of useless, but maybe things have improved. Zed, on the otherhand, is developed by people who understand pair programming, which is my priority.
Not the OP but I tried hard, looking for an easy pair programming solution. Worked decently a couple of times and inexplicably failed most of the time.
This is why I'm excited to try Zed. I regularly "pair" via Pop, but keybindings and lag make it hard to switch seats, so we basically decide at the beginning of the session who is going to hog the keyboard, and that's a crippling dynamic.
Re: Zed on Linux Is Here
#97I gave it a fair try
Cons:
- spawning nodejs whenever you edit JSON files seems overkill, i'd prefer they use something native and more lightweight, or a way to completely disable it
- text still looks a bit blurry on low DPI screens
- doesn't support LSP properly, completion items are missing some data
- Rust for plugins.. this is painful, compare it to Sublime Text's python API, it's night and day..
Pros:
- Fast and responsive
- UI is simple yet effective
- drag&drop layouting, something i wish Sublime Text had..
- built-in terminal
- built-in Debugger (not yet ready)
Few more months of developments, and i'll certainly switch from Sublime Text, i'll be a little sad because i wrote plenty of plugins for it
I however worry about their business model, i have 0 interests in their AI/collaboration stuff, i'll probably maintain a fork to get rid of all that crap, they should setup something as a back up plan, a small paid license, just for support, i'll be happy to buy one
Re: Zed on Linux Is Here
#98Cool to see a new editor in the arena with a lot of resources behind it, but I'm trying to find the selling point besides "it's really quick".
Great feature but there's a lot more stuff I need for a truly outstanding editor, what are the novel pieces?
The bar is ridiculously for editors (vim & emacs configurability, vscode just works, jetbrains can do it all) - what will/does it bring to the table to compete?
Re: Zed on Linux Is Here
#99I tried zed for a few weeks because I'm generally sympathetic to the "use a native app" idea vs Electron. I generally liked it and its UX but: 1. VSCode is pretty damn fast to be honest. Very rarely is my slowdown in my work VSCode loading. Maybe I don't open very large files? Probably 5k lines of typescript at most. 2. Integration with the Typescript language server was just not as good as VSCode. I can't pin down e…
I think people just have very different tolerances for latency and slowness. I keep trying different editors (including VS Code), and I always end up going back to Neovim because everything else just feels sluggish, to the point where it annoys me so much I'm willing to put up with all the configuration burden of Neovim because of it. I tried out Zed and it actually feels fast enough for me to consider switching.
I use Helix and feel the same way. The pickers/fuzzy finder particularly have no equal for speed in any editor I’ve found. (Zed seems pretty fast but I didn’t get on well enough with it to find out how it performs with more serious use.)
fwiw I’ve also found the configuration overhead much lower with Helix than for pretty much any other editor I’ve seriously used.
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#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://search.nixos.org/packages?channel=24.05&show=zed-edi...
Wait, added 2 months ago? This isn't new then, i take it? Interesting. Linux release announcement now i wonder? I expected this just was released today, so it definitely wouldn't be in Nixpkgs yet lol
For the last few months it has been available on Linux to build from source.