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My finetuned models beat OpenAI's GPT-4

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Re: My finetuned models beat OpenAI's GPT-4

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There is: "you may not... Use Output to develop models that compete with OpenAI" (from https://openai.com/policies/terms-of-use/ )

Thanks, I've missed that. I suppose the Output could be washed by publishing it on the web and having another entity crawl it. OpenAI doesn't treat anyone else's content any differently, acting like it's a fair game, so why should we care.

Data laundering. What a time to be alive.

Re: My finetuned models beat OpenAI's GPT-4

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(Disclaimer: I'm the founder of OpenPipe, one of the fine-tuning services OP tried and ultimately the one that produced the highest performing model, it appears.) Data extraction is a use case that fine-tuned models are fantastic at, so I'm not surprised that OP got good results. That said, I've also found it's pretty easy to beat GPT-4 across many task types if you have a way of getting strong training data. We publ…

Why isn't someone providing a "meta model" that uses an LLM to choose between various fine tuned models depending on the question to get overall better results than gpt4?

Check out https://unify.ai/chat if you're interested in a router optimised for cost/ttft/performance for commercial language models.

Re: My finetuned models beat OpenAI's GPT-4

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(Disclaimer: I'm the founder of OpenPipe, one of the fine-tuning services OP tried and ultimately the one that produced the highest performing model, it appears.) Data extraction is a use case that fine-tuned models are fantastic at, so I'm not surprised that OP got good results. That said, I've also found it's pretty easy to beat GPT-4 across many task types if you have a way of getting strong training data. We publ…

Why isn't someone providing a "meta model" that uses an LLM to choose between various fine tuned models depending on the question to get overall better results than gpt4?

Worth mentioning that you don’t even need separate models to implement this. Dynamically loading LoRA adapters is much more efficient, and is the approach Apple took.

Re: My finetuned models beat OpenAI's GPT-4

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Unsloth is a great tool, super fast.

But still only single GPU for now. I also heard great things about it, but wanted to make the maximum use of my multi-GPU local setup.

Last time I emailed them, I think they said they're trying to release pro in July... so should be coming soon.

Re: My finetuned models beat OpenAI's GPT-4

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1. It would be nice to see examples where GPT-4o was inaccurate, but best performing models were accurate. 2. It would be nice to try again with 0 temperature, as I do a lot of structured data extraction. In my experience 0 temperature should always be used, and it can make a huge difference. Temperature of 1 essentially means that it will start to pick tokens with lower probability of being accurate...

Agree, temp 0 would be interesting to compare for this usecase where there's a clear right and wrong answer based on historical data. We experimented with temperature for our AI SQL editor and found .3 to be ideal so it can still self heal when errors appear (which will happen closer to 0 because you're optimizing for correctness).

Re: My finetuned models beat OpenAI's GPT-4

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(Disclaimer: I'm the founder of OpenPipe, one of the fine-tuning services OP tried and ultimately the one that produced the highest performing model, it appears.) Data extraction is a use case that fine-tuned models are fantastic at, so I'm not surprised that OP got good results. That said, I've also found it's pretty easy to beat GPT-4 across many task types if you have a way of getting strong training data. We publ…

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