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Re: Lynn Conway has died

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The tragedy of Wikipedia is that something like 3,000 people in the entire world are active editors (>100 edits)

The last time I tried to contribute to Wikipedia I spent more than an hour crafting an initial article about Makoto Matsumoto, inventor of the popular Mersenne Twister PRNG, mostly using sources from the sister article on the Japanese wiki. Within moments, the article was deleted by a veteran editor who didn't consider the subject sufficiently notable. (This was apparently not an issue for the much smaller German, Fr…

Sorry to hear about that. I am not an admin so I can only do exact searches in the Deletion Log https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=delete&user=&... and so I was unable to find the original article. Do you happen to have the contents of the page somewhere (I understand if you don't)? I will try to create the stub article with sources somewhere and see if I can defend it sufficiently this evening.

EDIT: I was able to find the draft deletion over my lunch break! I have requested an undelete here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_undelet...

But this evening, I can just create the article directly. Not because I have any particular authority but just because confirmed users from a long time ago can do this. If the draft is undeleted, I can recover your work! If not, and you still want to, I'll send you a message when I create the article and you can add to it. Totally understandable if the last experience soured you on it and you'd rather not.

Re: Lynn Conway has died

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I recommend reading Lynn's story, written in her own words: https://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/RetrospectiveT.html It is amazing, tragic, and triumphant in so many ways.

I appreciate her making the effort to tell her story. I struggle sometimes to understand what it means when people say they feel born in the wrong gender. They way she describes it - not just about wanting to do 'girl' things but wanting to be soft and round and feminine - is eye-opening for me.

Re: Lynn Conway has died

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You don’t live your life exclusively for you after you have kids, I think

Most would agree that a trans parent is better than a dead parent, though.

I'd agree here. As a trans parent I have worried about what living an often non-socially acceptable lifestyle would do to them. But then I see the acceptance as my daughter proudly introduces me as her "mama" to her whole class. I'm a better parent alive living my truth than I am an "unalived" parent leaving a gap for those that loved me for me.

Re: Lynn Conway has died

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For those of you who are inclined to say "HackerNews doesn't deal with politics", I hope that Lynn's story reminds you that any work you do is intertwined with politics. While I appreciate that it's a difficult line to walk, to have productive and relevant political discussion in a forum like this, politics and social acceptance are a part of every aspect of our lives. Brilliant, kind, impactful people are kept from leading the life they want to lead every day because of societal intolerance for who they are. Incredible people like Lynn who have overcome that intolerance to lead a remarkable life should remind everyone of the suffering that others go through. There are uncountable other people who are not allowed to be themselves and who are suffocated in our society, with the lives of transgender people often ending in ostracisation or murder. One of the remarkable things about technology is that it enables trodden people to escape this tyranny to an extent once impossible. It enables marginalized people to be themselves in our world. Let us continue to enable that.

Such "political" discussions and the impact technology has on them are an important part of the discourse here. I'm sad she is gone but I'm glad to see that this post is high up the front page. If you're inclined to denigrate transgender people, I encourage you to consider that they are trying to lead an honest life. I encourage you to consider what you're taking away from them and from the world by dehumanizing them. No matter why they are who they are.

Re: Lynn Conway has died

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post #12

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Honestly considering Lynn Conway’s Wikipedia profile mentions being a transgender activist and not knowing much about either of them, I thought maybe I’d just missed that John Conway had transitioned at some point, and had now died.

It really doesn't help that the Wikipedia page doesn't currently appear to state the former name anywhere, like it often does for other people (like celebrities) who legally change their names at some point in their lives.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:DEADNAME says:

> If a living transgender or non-binary person was not notable under a former name (a deadname), it should not be included in any page (including lists, redirects, disambiguation pages, category names, templates, etc.), even in quotations, even if reliable sourcing exists. Treat the pre-notability name as a privacy interest separate from (and often greater than) the person's current name.

So, now she has passed away, it is allowed by policy to add her birth name to the article (assuming it can be reliably sourced, etc)

Although https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:BDP also says:

> Generally, this policy does not apply to material concerning people who are confirmed dead by reliable sources. The only exception would be for people who have recently died, in which case the policy can extend for an indeterminate period beyond the date of death—six months, one year, two years at the outside.

So some might argue that, due to WP:BDP, WP:DEADNAME still applies in the period immediately after her death – but in 2027 it won't (assuming Wikipedia leaves its policies unchanged)

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