The 'Inside' Story Is More Disturbing Is this a tasteless pun ?
Given that this as a pun would be applicable to anything with an interior and exterior, I'd say no, it's not meant as such.
The Titan Submersible Disaster. The Inside Story Is More Disturbing
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#92Respect the ocean, Space is somewhat mild in comparison.
The ocean, even the deep, is orders of magnitude easier and less dangerous than space...
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#93One interesting thing about this saga is we learned just how much of a badass James Cameron is. James Cameron put together the team that designed the DeepSea Challenger, which he took to the bottom of the Mariana Trench, far deeper than Titanic. One interesting tidbid (IIRC) is that they spent 3 years just designing the pressure vessel in software before they ever built anything, so precise the engineering had to be.…
Surprisingly the DeepSea Challenger was only $10M as well. Thats certainly a ton of money, but it's in the same ballpark as what ocean gate spent.
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#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
I didn’t delve this story, I just remember I saw a five minutes info at some tv channel in France, which was interviewing a guy who refused to for the ride just before the launch as he estimated the safety level he was expecting was not there. I don’t know if other riders were aware of that fact, which should have been communicated to them as a big red alert. Sad story, really. These people at least died while active…
> I don’t know if other riders were aware of that fact, which should have been communicated to them as a big red alert. As I understand it, the passengers were made aware of the risks. https://www.businessinsider.com/read-oceangate-waiver-titan-...
"the passengers were made aware of the risks"
From people asking them to sign this who otherwise hand-waived the risks away?
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#95Is it "more disturbing," though, really? I mean, privileged rich dude who thinks he knows better than experts wins Darwin award, and some people dumb enough to trust him got to go along for the (one way) ride. I'm not any more disturbed by it now than I was a year ago, and a year ago it barely moved the needle. And then it was only about the 19 year old son of one of the passengers -- even at that age, a child ought…
I didn’t delve this story, I just remember I saw a five minutes info at some tv channel in France, which was interviewing a guy who refused to for the ride just before the launch as he estimated the safety level he was expecting was not there. I don’t know if other riders were aware of that fact, which should have been communicated to them as a big red alert. Sad story, really. These people at least died while active…
Something I learned from this story is that a whistleblower Rush fired who could have prevented Rush from ever taking passengers on his fated dive instead ended up having to pay a $10,000 settlement and sign an NDA. The legal system utterly failed to protect society from a dangerously reckless man.
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#96One interesting thing about this saga is we learned just how much of a badass James Cameron is. James Cameron put together the team that designed the DeepSea Challenger, which he took to the bottom of the Mariana Trench, far deeper than Titanic. One interesting tidbid (IIRC) is that they spent 3 years just designing the pressure vessel in software before they ever built anything, so precise the engineering had to be.…
Surprisingly the DeepSea Challenger was only $10M as well. Thats certainly a ton of money, but it's in the same ballpark as what ocean gate spent.
i guess the difference was that ocean gate needed to recoup the expense and make a profit as fast as possible whereas the deepsea challenger didn't. so they could take their time and do it right without pressure.
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#97Tale as old as time: lack of safety culture due to reality denying executives causes people to die.
I don't think the executive going down in their own creation and using a video game controller before imploding is a tale as old time.
How about a nepo baby trying to achieve low orbit using wax wings?
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#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I don’t know if other riders were aware of that fact, which should have been communicated to them as a big red alert. As I understand it, the passengers were made aware of the risks. https://www.businessinsider.com/read-oceangate-waiver-titan-...
"the passengers were made aware of the risks" From people asking them to sign this who otherwise hand-waived the risks away?
I hadn't heard that before. Did Oceangate lie about or understate the risks?
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#99Reminds me of Vonnegut's line from Jailbird (without the stuttering of the character who uttered it), on the principal cause of a massacre: "American amateurism in matters of life and death" I'm a Canadian. As a Millenial of the "just watch a Youtube video and figure it out" generation, and somebody who has watched some things (like housing) get strangled by regulation, I can see the appeal of American libertarianism…
A news story is making the rounds of a badminton racket that killed a poor, unfortunate child. Matters of life and death are extremely broad, and even negligible probabilities mean that terrible things happen.
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#100David Lochridge, who oversaw marine operations at the company and who needed to sign off on the transfer, became convinced that Titan was unsafe. In January 2018, Lochridge sent Rush a quality-control inspection report detailing 27 issues with the vehicle, from questionable O-ring seals on the domes and missing bolts to flammable materials and more concerns about its carbon-fiber hull. Rush fired him the next day. (A…
The word "found" implies judicial discovery of truth through due process. This was a settlement. Nobody was found to be at fault, the information was highly dangerous and therefore valuable, if you want to eliminate the market of buying silence reform due process protections so they cannot be subverted by so called plea "deals" and so called settlement "agreements".
That's not right.
"Settlement" does really say a judge oversaw the entire thing while a corporation bullied somebody working for the public interest into silence.