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Secret Hand Gestures in Paintings (2019)

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Re: Secret Hand Gestures in Paintings (2019)

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Post by DontchaKnowit »

llamaimperative wrote: post #20
andrewla wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Except by the Christchurch shooter in court: https://nypost.com/2019/03/15/suspected-new-zealand-shooter-... And on Jan 6: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2021/far-r... And the Proud Boys: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/roger-stone-proud-boys/ Yes it started as "a joke" to troll the libs. And then became and has been used as intended.

Far right != white power movement or white nationalism.

Proud boys != white power group or white nationalist group.

Re: Secret Hand Gestures in Paintings (2019)

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Post by bakul »

Note that "mudras" have significant meanings in Hinduism, Jainism & Buddhism. Mudras used in Indian dances convey feelings or elements of story etc. Also used in yoga. And mudras are not just hand gestures but also facial expressions, eye movements and so on.

Though there does not seem to be any connection of mudras with European paintings. There were cultural links between India and the Greco-Roman world in 2nd-1st century BCE around the time of Indo-Greek kingdom (northwest of the current India) but seems unlikely that would have such an influence centuries later.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mudra

Re: Secret Hand Gestures in Paintings (2019)

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Post by flir »

Dig1t wrote: post #83
flir wrote: post #57

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> I think it's not a good idea to associate a very natural gesture with horrible intentions... I imagine it's a very good idea, if you have horrible intentions. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/ok-sign-wh...

This entire thing is a hoax. > It has become an extremist meme, according to the Anti-Defamation League. The ADL maintains a "glossary" of every random meme and inside joke from 4chan and claims that they are all somehow connected with Nazis. The ADL itself is in fact considered a hate organization by many people. >Under the guise of fighting hate speech, the ADL has a long history of wielding its moral authority to…

"Just a joke, bro"

I hear that a lot.

Re: Secret Hand Gestures in Paintings (2019)

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Post by Loughla »

dvh wrote: post #76
antognini wrote: post #69

Another hand gesture you will frequently see in religious art is a figure (usually a Pope or bishop) pointing upwards with their index and middle finger. This is somewhat unnatural since you would generally point with your index finger alone. The use of two fingers represents the divine and human natures of Christ. A few examples: https://i2.wp.com/catholicism.org/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/fil... https://jimmyakin.com/w…

The pope photo is not him pointing upward, he's doing the blessing. Imagine someone standing right in front of him and he's pointing two fingers at their head, then move to torso, then left shoulder, then right shoulder. Depending on the speed of the camera at that time, he might pose like that for a second just to take the photograph as if he's in the middle of the blessing someone. I've never seen priest doing it w…

It's literally the hand sign of dual nature of Christ. Blessing or posing.

The Catholic Church has had quite a few years to solidify and formalize their rituals. Nothing a priest does during mass is accidental or coincidental. They go to school for these things.

Re: Secret Hand Gestures in Paintings (2019)

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Post by vlark »

lgessler wrote: post #12
Dr_Birdbrain wrote: post #6

I am confused why this appears on NIH.gov

A division of the NIH (NCBI) maintains a repository of open access publications in life sciences called PubMed Central ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PubMed_Central ) and this article was in a qualifying journal.

Specifically, this journal: https://mattioli1885journals.com/index.php/actabiomedica

Re: Secret Hand Gestures in Paintings (2019)

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Post by [deleted] »

DontchaKnowit wrote: post #91
llamaimperative wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except by the Christchurch shooter in court: https://nypost.com/2019/03/15/suspected-new-zealand-shooter-... And on Jan 6: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2021/far-r... And the Proud Boys: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/roger-stone-proud-boys/ Yes it started as "a joke" to troll the libs. And then became and has been used as intended.

Far right != white power movement or white nationalism. Proud boys != white power group or white nationalist group.

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Re: Secret Hand Gestures in Paintings (2019)

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Post by llamaimperative »

DontchaKnowit wrote: post #91
llamaimperative wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except by the Christchurch shooter in court: https://nypost.com/2019/03/15/suspected-new-zealand-shooter-... And on Jan 6: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2021/far-r... And the Proud Boys: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/roger-stone-proud-boys/ Yes it started as "a joke" to troll the libs. And then became and has been used as intended.

Far right != white power movement or white nationalism. Proud boys != white power group or white nationalist group.

Your claim was some mishmash of "only kids do it" and "no one does it in the real world" and "only trolls do it"

So I'm not sure what you think you're correcting here.

Re: Secret Hand Gestures in Paintings (2019)

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Post by llamaimperative »

DontchaKnowit wrote: post #75
DonHopkins wrote: post #24

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https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Popehat%27s%... Popehat's Law of Goats He who fucks goats, either as part of a performance or to troll those he deems has overly delicate sensibilities is simply, a goatfucker. "He claimed he was just pretending to be racist to trigger the social justice warriors, but even if he is telling the truth, Popehat's Law of Goats still applies."

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"Being racist" doesn't mean committing hate crimes.

You're allowed to be racist if you want and you're allowed to pretend you're a racist if you want. The goatfucker law still applies.

Re: Secret Hand Gestures in Paintings (2019)

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Post by [deleted] »

DontchaKnowit wrote: post #73
deprecative wrote: post #17

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And? Words and phrases are often adopted by a group to mean things they didn't. The ok hand gesture was a joke then it was embraced by Nazis and here we are. But you knew that.

No, I dont know that, because it is false. The hand symbol is a running joke about looking at someone elses testicles. The peoppe that play this game are rowdy adolescent boys. Those boys went online and made ironic racist jokes, as young boys do, and now somehow people think its a symbol of white power. Anyone who knows whats going on is laughing at your foolishness.

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Re: Secret Hand Gestures in Paintings (2019)

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Post by Dig1t »

aspenmayer wrote: post #90
Dig1t wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This entire thing is a hoax. > It has become an extremist meme, according to the Anti-Defamation League. The ADL maintains a "glossary" of every random meme and inside joke from 4chan and claims that they are all somehow connected with Nazis. The ADL itself is in fact considered a hate organization by many people. >Under the guise of fighting hate speech, the ADL has a long history of wielding its moral authority to…

> This entire thing is a hoax. While the usage of the ok sign likely began as a LARP hoax, it has since become adopted as a high sign/shibboleth by actual white supremacists and adjacent fringe groups like Boogaloo Boys, similarly to Hawaiian shirts. That’s the entire point of these types of signaling behaviors - they’re plausibly deniable, innocuous or not obviously offensive or aggressive, and they’re usually inscr…

It just sounds like a conspiracy theory. The right has tons of theories about "elites" using secret hand signals and gestures meaning all kinds of satanic things.

Both are conspiracy theories for the same reasons.

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