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Re: Ice – open source menu bar manager for macOS

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Post by scottoreilly »

kstrauser wrote: post #3

Not the submitter, but I installed this a couple days ago to replace Bartender. For those not following along at home, the Bartender author just sold it to some sketchy app mill. It’s an app that legitimately requires screen recording permissions to work. I trusted the old author’s reputation. I have zero trust in the own owner. Ice isn’t as good yet. It’s not nearly so configurable. For example, you can either hide…

> For example, you can either hide all icons or none.

I thought so at first too, but it’s just a confusing UI. The documentation says:

> Simply Command + drag your menu bar items to rearrange them.

What isn’t said is that this dragging also allows you to keep some of the items permanently showing. Anything you drag to the right of that double arrow icon will stay there.

Re: Ice – open source menu bar manager for macOS

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Post by philistine »

lycopodiopsida wrote: post #43
xlii wrote: post #26

Offtopic, but am I the only person surprised how badly Apple stalled when it comes to window management and UX on MacOS? I feel that today, as a power user/professional, MacOS wouldn't be usable without applications like Bartender, external window manager such as Rectangle/Divvy etc. I feel strong attraction coming from yabai, but disabling SIP is too much for me. Personally I'm reaching the point where I'd migrate t…

Window management is fine, what is missing are half-split/full-screen shortcuts. There are many apps which can set them up, but a built-in possibility would fix most issues, since only a very small subset of users cares about tiling wm even on linux. Though, there was a new project the other day on HN, where SIP can remain on: https://github.com/nikitabobko/AeroSpace I, for my part, have configured window placement s…

There are shortcuts to tile windows. Hold the green indicator in an app’s window.

Re: Ice – open source menu bar manager for macOS

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Post by latexr »

kstrauser wrote: post #3

Not the submitter, but I installed this a couple days ago to replace Bartender. For those not following along at home, the Bartender author just sold it to some sketchy app mill. It’s an app that legitimately requires screen recording permissions to work. I trusted the old author’s reputation. I have zero trust in the own owner. Ice isn’t as good yet. It’s not nearly so configurable. For example, you can either hide…

> I trusted the old author’s reputation. I have zero trust in the own owner.

As of now, I have zero trust in the old author too. The lack of communication is the fault of both parties. Ben Surtees has caused serious damage to their own reputation. Any new software released under that name will have a hard time gaining trust and traction.

Re: Ice – open source menu bar manager for macOS

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Post by thiht »

bartvk wrote: post #79
xlii wrote: post #26

Offtopic, but am I the only person surprised how badly Apple stalled when it comes to window management and UX on MacOS? I feel that today, as a power user/professional, MacOS wouldn't be usable without applications like Bartender, external window manager such as Rectangle/Divvy etc. I feel strong attraction coming from yabai, but disabling SIP is too much for me. Personally I'm reaching the point where I'd migrate t…

Stage Manager was introduced in Ventura, which is definitely a form of window management. I don't think you can call that "badly stalled"?

Does anyone actually use Stage Manager though? Probably a bias on my part but I don't know anyone who use it ever

Re: Ice – open source menu bar manager for macOS

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Post by [deleted] »

xlii wrote: post #26

Offtopic, but am I the only person surprised how badly Apple stalled when it comes to window management and UX on MacOS? I feel that today, as a power user/professional, MacOS wouldn't be usable without applications like Bartender, external window manager such as Rectangle/Divvy etc. I feel strong attraction coming from yabai, but disabling SIP is too much for me. Personally I'm reaching the point where I'd migrate t…

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Re: Ice – open source menu bar manager for macOS

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Post by frob »

For about 4 years now, I've used Dozer [0] to hide and organize menu items. It's been mature and stable the whole time. It had many of the features still on the development roadmap for Ice. You can drag-and-drop icons, hide and reveal with clicks or keyboards, and have two levels of hidability.

[0] https://github.com/Mortennn/Dozer

Re: Ice – open source menu bar manager for macOS

#99

Post by ziml77 »

web3-is-a-scam wrote: post #89
kstrauser wrote: post #3

Not the submitter, but I installed this a couple days ago to replace Bartender. For those not following along at home, the Bartender author just sold it to some sketchy app mill. It’s an app that legitimately requires screen recording permissions to work. I trusted the old author’s reputation. I have zero trust in the own owner. Ice isn’t as good yet. It’s not nearly so configurable. For example, you can either hide…

I didn’t know Bartender was sold. I thought it was fishy to need screen recording permissions but I assumed it was because of “security” features of the new macOS/m series chip/whatever so I just let it go because I trusted the Bartender dev. Uninstalled. What a shame.

Bartender did need screen recording permissions for certain features to work under the more locked down security model in macOS 11+. That happened well before Bartender was sold.

Re: Ice – open source menu bar manager for macOS

#100

Post by oefrha »

scottoreilly wrote: post #91
kstrauser wrote: post #3

Not the submitter, but I installed this a couple days ago to replace Bartender. For those not following along at home, the Bartender author just sold it to some sketchy app mill. It’s an app that legitimately requires screen recording permissions to work. I trusted the old author’s reputation. I have zero trust in the own owner. Ice isn’t as good yet. It’s not nearly so configurable. For example, you can either hide…

> For example, you can either hide all icons or none. I thought so at first too, but it’s just a confusing UI. The documentation says: > Simply Command + drag your menu bar items to rearrange them. What isn’t said is that this dragging also allows you to keep some of the items permanently showing. Anything you drag to the right of that double arrow icon will stay there.

Good thing it’s been added to README now, I was similarly stumped two days ago and only found out from the issue tracker: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40580582 The instructions really should be in the app, though.
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