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Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

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Re: Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

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Not from the article, but from the comments below it. > My phone was stolen while I was going through TSA security at JFK and the TSA guy must have been in on it because he wouldn't let me get it even though we were able to locate it using my husbands phone. When we used the find me app later we saw it was somewhere in Queens so definitely wasn't stolen by someone else flying that day. I had never heard of that happe…

You understand the impulse to steal because a job doesn't pay well? I don't. I would understand the impulse to go back to school to develop a marketable skill, but not to use the force of the state to steal from people. Edit: Would you still find this behavior understandable if the TSA agent directly stole from passengers as their bags were scanned? What if the passenger in question ignored the collaborating-TSA-agen…

It seems willfully obtuse to read "understand the impulse" as "excuse the behavior" in this context.

Re: Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

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post #75

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These days, it's not worth it to steal an iPhone. It's a useless brick. That Apple knows where it's at.

I disagree. There are a lot of uses for an iCloud locked iPhone, such as a music player, podcast player, security camera, etc. Edit: I should clarify that the embedded video clearly showed that a number of the iPhones she had were still able to be used. Perhaps the owner didn't or wasn't able to iCloud lock them, but that's what I originally meant.

This isn’t true. The iPhone is locked down over iCloud. I assume remote lockdown also works while the phone is turned off or on airplane mode (as Find My Phone does by using the passive Apple mesh network)

Re: Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

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> Apple’s own “helpful” iMessage feature was sort of fooled: the auto-filled contact name said “Maybe: Apple Pay.” Maybe!

This seems problematic? In article screenshot shows that it pulled in a misleading contact photo as well. I know they also have a separate UI color scheme for business messaging that is meant to address phishing and trust but perhaps they should not auto suggest contacts containing the word Apple.

Re: Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

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post #13

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Russian government is the blackhat population.

I have a theory that Russians foster black hat population while collecting evidence as a matter of national policy... so they could slowly recruit / quickly gang press talent from. Kind of like strategic reserve of hackers / zero days / etc.

Yeah, a bit like corrupt politicians in China (or anywhere, really), you can be corrupt, but if some other powerful politician doesn't like you, they'll arrest and ruin your life for corruption... Even though maybe the judge and police are also corrupt.

Or in Egypt, you have to bribe to get a job as a police officer, your superior expects a tribute each month because his superiors expect one, all the way to the top, so you bully the public for bribes/protection money, that's why the police were so passionate about suppressing anti-government protests during the Arab Spring, their livelihood depended on it. Meanwhile the Egyptian military had its own economy to supply themselves (eg a factory making soap, or bread) and were viewed by the public as trustworthy.

All in a fascinating book:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25622863-thieves-of-stat...

Re: Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

#96
post #10

Honestly. This is a pretty good advertisement for Apple. I appreciate the effort that they've put into making my device less valuable to thiefs.

It’s interesting though… it’s still worth something to thieves, they still can recycle the screen, buttons, case etc. I’ve had my iPhone stolen in recent years too, people can’t resist. Don’t get me wrong, it does feel good to stick it to the perp but doesn’t apple itself have the most to gain from locking most of the value away? The second hand market is completely gated by them. Broken FaceID? You need a new phone…

This is a win win for Apple

Re: Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

#97
post #7

So, what's the right procedure here? Is the dichotomy in the post true? a) remove from account and help the recycle crooks, or b) risk them crack it having your data Aren't there crack wares at this point in the wild?

Is there not a 3rd option for iphones to remotely wipe and brick further use?

Re: Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

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Misconception: police solve crimes. Truth: police protect their employers.

Misconception: Police are trained to investigate and solve crime Reality: Police absolutely hate doing the "boring" parts of their jobs. Property crime clearance rate is an abysmal ~10% and everyone knows a handful of people who reported a theft, large or otherwise, and got nothing but a police report. Meanwhile they had plenty of time to come to our local supermarket and harass a 6 year old that tried to pocket a ca…

Uvalde

Re: Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

#99
post #73

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Return it to an Apple store? Apple knows who to contact.

Most countries, including mine or the ones I'm likely to travel to, don't have Apple Stores.

If my phone gets stolen from my pocket in the US, the chance of it wandering to the third world and then a Good Samaritan trying to give it back seem abysmal.

Re: Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

#100
post #79

If that isn't already the case, Apple should warn you when you put your phone in lost mode that the robbers may contact you to get you to remove it from your iCloud account, and to never do it. Or add a big warning when trying to remove a device previously put in lost mode.

Is there a good reason why you might want to remove an iPhone marked as lost from your iCloud account? It seems like something that should just not be possible.
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