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After Furiosa flops, Hollywood could be facing a biblically disastrous summer

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Re: After Furiosa flops, Hollywood could be facing a biblically disastrous summer

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Post by AnimalMuppet »

darth_avocado wrote: post #19

I’ve seen a lot of explanations for this, but talking to most people my age, there’s only one that’s the real reason: the economics are terrible for watching a movie. The tickets are averaging $20-30 per person around where I live. In 2018, the same movies cost $7-13. Parking and food push the costs even higher. All for a couple of hours of entertainment. I can watch the same movie for $20 when it comes out on DVD. I…

N people can watch the same movie M times for $20 when it comes out on DVD. You can pop your own popcorn, and put on the amount of butter and salt that you like. You can also rewind to watch any bit you want.

Re: After Furiosa flops, Hollywood could be facing a biblically disastrous summer

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Post by Grimeton »

krapp wrote: post #88
Grimeton wrote: post #80

Hollywood is in a decline for years and pushing politics and ideology in each and every movie didn't help either. People are just fed up by this nonsense and don't watch it anymore. A similar thing is (finally) happening in the gaming space, too.

No. Most people don't care. The group that sees "politics and ideology" ruining everything everywhere are an insufferably loud minority. Which is ironic because minorities are usually what set them off.

It's been going on for so long that more and more people realize what is being played and they reject it because they don't want any ideology being pushed onto their plate by a movie or a game.

It's similar to the espionage problem with TVs, phones and OSs.

And btw: It's funny how you can always get at least one person to jump on a comment like that and tell me it's not true.

Re: After Furiosa flops, Hollywood could be facing a biblically disastrous summer

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Post by 1-more »

vundercind wrote: post #84
mr_mitm wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fury Road was certainly not a cash grab, but a prequel to the blockbuster of the 10s except with a female lead definitely smells like a cash grab.

She was the protagonist of the other one too. The Jay Gatsby to Max’s Nick Carraway. And AFAIK this is built almost entirely off the extensive character background notes developed while writing her for Fury Road, so it’s not like they just cooked up this story because they needed something .

It was supposed to come out as an animated companion backstory like the Animatrix. The budget would have been lower for that. Instead we get it 10 years later and much bigger than it was meant to be. No idea whose choice that is (Miller, the studio, someone in between). If I didn't have a kid I'd have seen it opening weekend; Fury Road was a perfect flick.

Re: After Furiosa flops, Hollywood could be facing a biblically disastrous summer

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Post by jonheller »

I know I'm a bit sensitive to this type of thing, going to the theater is such a roll of the dice:

- Will I set in front of someone kicking my chair? - Will I sit next to someone eating candy from a crinkly bag for half the movie? - Will I sit behind someone on their phone the whole time? - Will I sit next to someone talking most of the time?

I go to about two movies a year because of this, but I would easily go 5, maybe even 10 times as often if there was a way these issues could be addressed.

Re: After Furiosa flops, Hollywood could be facing a biblically disastrous summer

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Post by nataliste »

Grimeton wrote: post #80

Hollywood is in a decline for years and pushing politics and ideology in each and every movie didn't help either. People are just fed up by this nonsense and don't watch it anymore. A similar thing is (finally) happening in the gaming space, too.

This was my experience. Same thing happened to gaming for me at the same time.

It was around 2015 that I burned out. The last film that I tried to watch was the Force Awakens. It was incoherent, frenetic, poorly acted, and filled with in-vogue nonsensical pandering. Any interest I had in cinema as a medium evaporated.

There's nothing filmmakers can do to make me want to watch films, let alone pay for the privilege--even if they somehow pandered to all my weird whims.

Megalopolis is honestly the first film that I've heard about in almost a decade that sounded even remotely interesting, but then I saw the trailer and all desire to see it disappeared.

Re: After Furiosa flops, Hollywood could be facing a biblically disastrous summer

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Post by drcongo »

gwill wrote: post #39
OskarS wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Go see Furiosa! It's not quite as incredible as Fury Road, but it's pretty darn great, and it's the exact kind of movie you should see in the cinema. Feeling the rumble in the chair from the sound system while watching is honestly thrilling. I realize we all have excellent TVs and sound systems at home now, but the cinema is still worth it, and especially for movies like Furiosa that were just made to be experienced…

I actually liked it better than Fury Road. I think I didn't reflect enough during Fury Road to try and understand the world. I dismissed it as kinda silly and figured i should just suspend disbelief, but Furiosa does a bit more handholding and gives all the background and depth Fury Road hints toward. Rewatching Fury Road after Furiosa helped me appreciate it more. Watching at home is such a diminished experience com…

I also liked it better than Fury Road. I thought the action sequences in Furiosa were easily the best choreographed large action I've ever seen, but it's also a much more rounded film with some absolutely masterful shot choices.

Re: After Furiosa flops, Hollywood could be facing a biblically disastrous summer

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Post by vundercind »

1-more wrote: post #93
vundercind wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

She was the protagonist of the other one too. The Jay Gatsby to Max’s Nick Carraway. And AFAIK this is built almost entirely off the extensive character background notes developed while writing her for Fury Road, so it’s not like they just cooked up this story because they needed something .

It was supposed to come out as an animated companion backstory like the Animatrix. The budget would have been lower for that. Instead we get it 10 years later and much bigger than it was meant to be. No idea whose choice that is (Miller, the studio, someone in between). If I didn't have a kid I'd have seen it opening weekend; Fury Road was a perfect flick.

I was worried, given these kind of story-behind-the-story prequels are usually a bad idea, but was pleasantly surprised. It delivers Fury Road style action of a similar (so, exceptionally high) quality both in raw action-excitement and in use of the scenes to convey story and (especially) characterization and character arcs, while being very differently-structured and not at all feeling like just the same thing again, or like it’s just trying to fill in every single gap in the setting left by Fury Road.

It also feels thick with influence and fluency in cinema per se, in a way that Fury Road didn’t to me, and I think it may mean this one rewards repeat watches to an exceptional degree.

Re: After Furiosa flops, Hollywood could be facing a biblically disastrous summer

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Post by gensym »

lolive wrote: post #30

What? Furiosa is a flop????

It's been open for 6 days. It's a bummer that movies need to make all their money right away.

Same with Fall Guy. Everyone I've talked to who saw it loved it. My wife and I have wanted to see it since it opened, but life is busy and this week is our first opportunity to do so. We're going tomorrow, which is the last day before it gets pulled from theaters.

Re: After Furiosa flops, Hollywood could be facing a biblically disastrous summer

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Post by readthenotes1 »

DHPersonal wrote: post #47
jmclnx wrote: post #12

Most of these seem to be "retreads". I saw Dune II and I thought it was very good. Too bad Hollywood is too afraid to invest in movies with a real story. Seems to them, Action means Bullets and Car Chases, SF means Special Effects and Lasers with nothing to do with Science.

> Most of these seem to be "retreads". I saw Dune II… I know what you mean, but this still made me chuckle, because the recent Dune’s a retread, too.

I don't think of the recent Dune as a retread, I think of it as switching to rubber based tires instead of wagon wheels and putting an internal combustion engine inside instead of horses up front

Re: After Furiosa flops, Hollywood could be facing a biblically disastrous summer

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Post by gwill »

FireBeyond wrote: post #51
slibhb wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is Furiosa a cash grab? I haven't seen it yet but Fury Road was anything but.

Fury Road made sense. The fact that Furiosa is set in between the original Mad Max and the time of Fury Road kinda says "cash grab" to me. No real logical reason to insert this fifth film between films 1 and 4 other than "we don't know how to continue the storyline with something new, so let's just bridge the gaps".

I loved how they bridged the gaps. Further development of the world which made me appreciate Fury Road even more. When I saw the trailers I thought it looked terrible and was a cash grab. After a friend got me to go see it, I was happily proven wrong.

I don't think telling a story out of sequence from existing material means that it's a cash grab.

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