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OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show

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Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show

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Post by tibbydudeza »

pavlov wrote: post #13
jrockway wrote: post #10

I was perusing some Simpsons clips this afternoon and came across a story to the effect of "So and so didn't want to play himself, so Dan Castellaneta did the voice." It's a good impression and people didn't seem very upset about that. I am not sure how this is different. (Apparently this particular "impression" predates the Her character, so it's even easier to not be mad about. It's just a coincidence. They weren't…

Surely there’s some kind of difference between “voice impression for a two-line cameo in one episode of an animated sitcom” and “reproducing your voice as the primary interface for a machine that could be used by billions of people and is worth hundreds of billions of dollars.” Is there a name for this AI fallacy? The one where programmers make an inductive leap like, for example, if a human can read one book to lear…

I know there is some exceptions in US law for use of parody ???.

Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show

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Post by ars »

gamblor956 wrote: post #72
fsloth wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are the unique aspects of a sound? A lot of people look and sound stunningly alike. As a recent example Baldur’s Gate 3, Andrew Wincott voiced Raphael, an npc-antagonist, who to my untrained ear sounded exactly like Charles Dance, and the character model had more than a passing semblance to Mr. Dance as well. It was not a Charles Dance carbon copy but all aspects of the character were strongly aligned with him.…

Wincott and Dance and are both British actors that began their careers on stage, so they have similar accents, cadences, and vocal mannerisms common to stage actors. For example, both of them speak like Patrick Stewart, another English who also began his career on stage. But otherwise they all clearly have very different voices: they have different timbres, vocal fry, and only one of them (Dance) can sing well and he…

Every single thing in your second paragraph is directly contradicted by the article at hand, yet you say them like they are established facts as opposed to things you just made up.

Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show

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Post by nusl »

ml-anon wrote: post #85

Then why pull the voice in the first place? If it goes to court I’m sure discovery will unearth a bunch of emails and slack messages pertaining to this as well as documentation about the make up of their training sets and casting and performance notes for the voice talent. Hopefully they’re under legal hold now.

Pulling things at first signs of an outcry seems to be the thing to do. It's hard to know how folks would have reacted had they not pulled it.

Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show

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Post by ben_w »

ml-anon wrote: post #85

Then why pull the voice in the first place? If it goes to court I’m sure discovery will unearth a bunch of emails and slack messages pertaining to this as well as documentation about the make up of their training sets and casting and performance notes for the voice talent. Hopefully they’re under legal hold now.

> Then why pull the voice in the first place?

Several possible reasons.

1. They're not actively malicious and have the emotional capacity to feel embarrassed

2. They know they were talking about her voice and making comparisons and that this is A Bad Look and they've had a terrible week PR-wise already

3. Might be a trademark violation, I'm not sure how that law works (in general let alone voice) but there's a reason why Pear Computer had to change their logo

Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show

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Post by pests »

dorkwood wrote: post #80
squigz wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> for example, if a human can read one book to learn something, then it’s ok to scan millions of books into a computer system because it’s just another kind of learning. Since this comes up all the time , I ask: What exactly is the number of books a human can ingest before it becomes illegal?

This is a bit like someone saying they don't want cars traveling down the sidewalk because they're too big and heavy, and then having someone ask how big and heavy a person needs to get before it becomes illegal for them to travel down the sidewalk. It misses the point, which is that cars aren't people. Arguments like "well a car uses friction to travel along the ground and fuel to create kinetic energy, just like hu…

Thank you, love this response.

Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show

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Post by gitgud »

Seattle3503 wrote: post #27
squigz wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> for example, if a human can read one book to learn something, then it’s ok to scan millions of books into a computer system because it’s just another kind of learning. Since this comes up all the time , I ask: What exactly is the number of books a human can ingest before it becomes illegal?

For a human? Whatever they can consume within their natural life.

Does natural life still count if a person is using an artificial heart?

What about if they have augmentation that allows them to read and interpret books really fast?

It’s not an easy question to answer…

Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show

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Post by nottorp »

fsloth wrote: post #42
Ariel_Asura wrote: post #5

It seems increasingly difficult for common people to protect their voices, especially when even Scarlett Johansson can't manage it. As a part-time voice actor with a unique voice, I'm concerned about what I should do if my voice is used without permission and the company denies it. How can I protect myself in such a situation?

What are the unique aspects of a sound? A lot of people look and sound stunningly alike. As a recent example Baldur’s Gate 3, Andrew Wincott voiced Raphael, an npc-antagonist, who to my untrained ear sounded exactly like Charles Dance, and the character model had more than a passing semblance to Mr. Dance as well. It was not a Charles Dance carbon copy but all aspects of the character were strongly aligned with him.…

Who's Charles Dance? :)

As for Scarlett Johansson, I remember her from the Ghost in the Shell the live action movie controversy. Not fondly.

Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show

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Post by numpad0 »

fsloth wrote: post #42
Ariel_Asura wrote: post #5

It seems increasingly difficult for common people to protect their voices, especially when even Scarlett Johansson can't manage it. As a part-time voice actor with a unique voice, I'm concerned about what I should do if my voice is used without permission and the company denies it. How can I protect myself in such a situation?

What are the unique aspects of a sound? A lot of people look and sound stunningly alike. As a recent example Baldur’s Gate 3, Andrew Wincott voiced Raphael, an npc-antagonist, who to my untrained ear sounded exactly like Charles Dance, and the character model had more than a passing semblance to Mr. Dance as well. It was not a Charles Dance carbon copy but all aspects of the character were strongly aligned with him.…

Try loading random voice file done by real (voice)actors into Audacity, switch view to spectrogram mode, drag down to expand, and compare it to yours. Professionally done voice should look like neatly arranged salmon slices, yours will look like PCIe eye diagrams.

You can also obviously compare multiple voice files recorded with similar sounding but different individuals, they rarely look similar on spectrograms.

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