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Re: Bluesky adds direct messages

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post #49

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> By making the protocol centralized and stupid-simple, it's also stupid-simple to replace in when everyone is done painting the perfect bikeshed. Can you recall any example of anyone replacing a centralized protocol with a decentralized one?

Threads sits on top of the Instagram infrastructure. And they have added ActivityPub integration moving everything closer to decentralisation. Given how much of a win-win for Meta it is it wouldn't surprise me to see all their networks move in that direction.

> Given how much of a win-win for Meta

How much?

> to see all their networks move in that direction.

Why would they? What exactly will the move entail?

Re: Bluesky adds direct messages

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How is that an answer to the question?

It's an example of somebody replacing a centralized protocol with a more decentralized one. It's also one of the biggest direct messaging platforms in the world with E2E encryption.

How is it decentralized? It's running from and through Facebook servers.

Re: Bluesky adds direct messages

#94

Wake me up when the non tech people are using it.

at least among the people I follow, there aren't really very many tech people. It's pretty much friendly enough for anyone to use imo.

I mean, sure if you want to run a PDS or labeller, that's basically technical folks only at this point, but I've seen non-technical people put together feeds, choose which labellers they want to pay attention to, etc.

but for just skeeting and BMing, it's user friendly

Re: Bluesky adds direct messages

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>I as a developer have yet to even figure out how it's supposed to work You go to https://joinmastodon.org/ , click on "join" (or pick another server if you are adventurous), fill in your username and email and you're good to go. Why do people invent fictional horror stories about a service that's at this point functionally as easy to use as any bog standard website?

You go to https://joinmastodon.org/ , click on "join" (or pick another server if you are adventurous) Regular consumers hate this because they don't know what they're getting into, and it feels like the social media equivalent of a crypto scam where you're invited to buy a coin, any coin. It was probably intended to resemble arriving at college during rush week and pick a social/activity club to join, except you have…

heck, I'm not a regular user, and I find it annoying to pick a server without knowing what the vibe is. I want to lurk without any transaction costs before I sign up for something

Re: Bluesky adds direct messages

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post #93

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It's an example of somebody replacing a centralized protocol with a more decentralized one. It's also one of the biggest direct messaging platforms in the world with E2E encryption.

How is it decentralized? It's running from and through Facebook servers.

Facebook cannot read your messages, so it is more decentralized than a system that stores messages in plaintext (or stores the decryption keys).

Re: Bluesky adds direct messages

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post #91

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Threads sits on top of the Instagram infrastructure. And they have added ActivityPub integration moving everything closer to decentralisation. Given how much of a win-win for Meta it is it wouldn't surprise me to see all their networks move in that direction.

> Given how much of a win-win for Meta How much? > to see all their networks move in that direction. Why would they? What exactly will the move entail?

a) They can monetise content that didn't originate on their platform.

b) It shifts regulators attention from them to closed platforms like X.

c) They can leverage their advantages e.g. ad serving, safety to push competitors into niches.

Re: Bluesky adds direct messages

#99
post #9

Bluesky is going to have the same problem as orkut. While they’re building out, keeping it exclusive and taking their sweet-ass time, something else will come along and eat their lunch. I am saying this as a bitter outsider without a Bluesky account but with FOMO.

> something else will come along and eat their lunch It already happened. Whilst Bluesy was requiring invites, Threads launched and now has the highest DAUs of all of the text social networks.

I agree with you on this, but the Threads culture of 'no bad vibes' is very hard to take

Re: Bluesky adds direct messages

#100

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I feel for them, because even if they (and weirdos like us on this site) value decentralization and other related values the average customer just DOES NOT CARE. They're trying to compete with other platforms without this handicap and very people people are willing to give them any "credit" for it

This is spot on. BlueSky and Threads have just become "left-wing Twitter", intentionally in quotes because it's actually a very small subset of users that left to found their own hug-box, due to some irrational hate of Musk, or that people they don't like at the old place are allowed to have opinions again. Nobody cares about protocols, except maybe the handful of infosec nerds on Mastodon. It's about a middle school…

> that people they don't like at the old place are allowed to have opinions again.

Sorry, but I think that deliberately obfuscates the changes Musk has made at Twitter. See https://ketanjoshi.co/2024/04/19/you-are-the-fuel-that-energ... for one summary.

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