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Google cuts mystery check to US in bid to sidestep jury trial

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Re: Google cuts mystery check to US in bid to sidestep jury trial

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Post by paulddraper »

1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #89

In other antritrust litigation Google has argued that people love the company, that is why they use it and that is why it has remained #1. If this is true, then why is Google so afraid of a jury. Would it not be comprised of Google supporters. That Google just thinks paying people off will solve every one of its problems, whether its competitors or plaintiffs, perhaps will play into the government's narrative. Google…

Google denies damages: Bad bad bad

Google admits damages: Bad bad bad

Lol I don't think they're trying to make you happy.

Re: Google cuts mystery check to US in bid to sidestep jury trial

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Post by jachee »

ab5tract wrote: post #48
pclmulqdq wrote: post #6

For everyone who doesn't understand what's going on: Google has written a check that they claim covers the monetary damages involved in the case, and has conceded that amount. That would take damages off the table for this case. With no monetary damages, Google thinks that the state has no right to demand a jury trial. They have also said in the article that the amount that Google claims the DOJ can prove is less tha…

How is it legally possible to avoid a jury just because the absolute, immutable majority of people understand that you are guilty?

Dolla dolla bills, y’all.

Basically anything is legally possible with enough of them, or just claiming to have enough of them.

Ole Donny T. wasn’t really exaggerating when he said that he could shoot a man dead in broad daylight on Fifth Ave. and get away with it.

Re: Google cuts mystery check to US in bid to sidestep jury trial

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Post by petesergeant »

ab5tract wrote: post #48
pclmulqdq wrote: post #6

For everyone who doesn't understand what's going on: Google has written a check that they claim covers the monetary damages involved in the case, and has conceded that amount. That would take damages off the table for this case. With no monetary damages, Google thinks that the state has no right to demand a jury trial. They have also said in the article that the amount that Google claims the DOJ can prove is less tha…

How is it legally possible to avoid a jury just because the absolute, immutable majority of people understand that you are guilty?

I'd like to add the perspective here that only the US "makes routine use of jury trials in a wide variety of non-criminal cases" [Wikipedia], so most of the world believes that justice can take place (at least in some circumstances) without a jury

Re: Google cuts mystery check to US in bid to sidestep jury trial

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Post by stubish »

pclmulqdq wrote: post #6

For everyone who doesn't understand what's going on: Google has written a check that they claim covers the monetary damages involved in the case, and has conceded that amount. That would take damages off the table for this case. With no monetary damages, Google thinks that the state has no right to demand a jury trial. They have also said in the article that the amount that Google claims the DOJ can prove is less tha…

I'm not sure how Google an claim they have covered the monetary damages, when in this case a jury is required to decide what the monetary damages actually are. I don't think they will be allowed to opt-out of risking punitive damages or higher actual damages discovered during trial. I'm kind of surprised they tried it given the headlines will obviously be negative.

Re: Google cuts mystery check to US in bid to sidestep jury trial

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Post by jsnell »

chii wrote: post #75
tedunangst wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The dispute is resolved.

but it's not resolved, it is "repaired" by a cheque for an amount that was determined ahead of time by google, and the jury not consulted at all?

It wasn't an amount determined by Google. It was the entire amount claimed by DoJ, tripled, and with interest.

Re: Google cuts mystery check to US in bid to sidestep jury trial

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Post by chomskyole »

voidfunc wrote: post #42

This is pretty awesome. Gotta love some clever legal maneuvering.

I suppose with enough funds that legal maneuvering is available to every single citizen, and that is what this is really about: equality of opportunity! Right? /s just in case....

Re: Google cuts mystery check to US in bid to sidestep jury trial

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Post by Havoc »

jjmarr wrote: post #25
Havoc wrote: post #4

> Google asserted that its check, which it said covered its alleged overcharges for online ads, allows it to sidestep a jury trial whether or not the government takes it. wtf. Since when does cutting a cheque allow you to directly dictate how legal process works? Instead of paying a speeding fine this is like going to the judge and saying here is 100 bucks to pretend the speed limit is 10 mph higher and then we hold…

To use the speeding ticket analogy, this is the equivalent of just paying the fine. The government can't sue you over an unpaid speeding ticket if you pay the ticket. The reason why this might work is the Seventh Amendment, which guarantees a jury in federal lawsuits so long as the amount disputed is over $20. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventh_Amendment_to_the_Unite... > In Suits at common law, where the value in…

> To use the speeding ticket analogy, this is the equivalent of just paying the fine.

It’s just not. You don’t get to set your own damages amount in advance of a trial and you certainly don’t get dictate random conditions on modifying legal process to government when you do.

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