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What’s the difference between an -ectomy, an -ostomy, and an -otomy? (1986)

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Re: What’s the difference between an -ectomy, an -ostomy, and an -otomy? (1986)

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I have to ask: is there a Greek equivalent for "it's all Greek to me"? Edit: I just did an internet search and found you use Chinese or Turkish instead. Never mind me.

And Turks use French for that.

Evet, epey Fransız kalıyoruz.

Re: What’s the difference between an -ectomy, an -ostomy, and an -otomy? (1986)

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It's fascinating how surgical terminology, much like programming languages, uses precise syntax to convey complex operations in a compact form. Just as in coding, where function names like append(), open(), or close() might describe operations on data, surgical terms like -ectomy, -ostomy, and -otomy encapsulate detailed medical procedures on the human body. This linguistic efficiency not only facilitates clear commu…

The purpose of language is to facilitate communication. Your observation seems trivial at best and tautological at worst.

There's some value in observing that there is a regularity to the terms used for a particular discipline, as opposed to a jumble of organically-grown jargon. For one, it tells you that learning a seemingly-unconnected vocabulary (Greek suffixes, in this case) can help you understand terms you've never otherwise encountered in their entirety.

Re: What’s the difference between an -ectomy, an -ostomy, and an -otomy? (1986)

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Actually -otomy isn't even -otomy... it's -tomy. For example Craniotomy. Cranio-tomy. cranio = κρανίο (skull) tomy = τομή (cut) And -tomy is just a cut, not cut a hole. To cut a hole you'd have to remove a part. Most of the cuts are straight lines and then the skin just opens up like a hole because of stretching. Then, -ostomy is -stomy. Nephrostomy. Nephro-stomy. Nephro = Νεφρό (Kidney) Stomy = Στόμιο (something tha…

I have to ask: is there a Greek equivalent for "it's all Greek to me"? Edit: I just did an internet search and found you use Chinese or Turkish instead. Never mind me.

Finding equivalent idioms in different languages is one of the most fun things to do with LLMs.

One of the tricky parts, if you plan to actually use the idioms, is that they very greatly between different regions that use the same language. Particularly tricky with Spanish, considering so many countries on so many different continents use it. I haven't found LLMs to be good at knowing what regions use any given expression.

Re: What’s the difference between an -ectomy, an -ostomy, and an -otomy? (1986)

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Actually -otomy isn't even -otomy... it's -tomy. For example Craniotomy. Cranio-tomy. cranio = κρανίο (skull) tomy = τομή (cut) And -tomy is just a cut, not cut a hole. To cut a hole you'd have to remove a part. Most of the cuts are straight lines and then the skin just opens up like a hole because of stretching. Then, -ostomy is -stomy. Nephrostomy. Nephro-stomy. Nephro = Νεφρό (Kidney) Stomy = Στόμιο (something tha…

Speaking Greek would’ve made medical school a little easier

Yes, but not dramatically simpler.

Re: What’s the difference between an -ectomy, an -ostomy, and an -otomy? (1986)

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Actually -otomy isn't even -otomy... it's -tomy. For example Craniotomy. Cranio-tomy. cranio = κρανίο (skull) tomy = τομή (cut) And -tomy is just a cut, not cut a hole. To cut a hole you'd have to remove a part. Most of the cuts are straight lines and then the skin just opens up like a hole because of stretching. Then, -ostomy is -stomy. Nephrostomy. Nephro-stomy. Nephro = Νεφρό (Kidney) Stomy = Στόμιο (something tha…

I have to ask: is there a Greek equivalent for "it's all Greek to me"? Edit: I just did an internet search and found you use Chinese or Turkish instead. Never mind me.

in German we say "I only understand train station and departure"...

Re: What’s the difference between an -ectomy, an -ostomy, and an -otomy? (1986)

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I didn’t realise so many of these medical terms were Greek rather than Latin. Interesting! Are these terms still used as-is in modern Greek? Much like how translating names of French dishes removes some of the air of sophistication, I feel like being told one is to receive a ‘skull cut’ sounds somewhat more scary than the (to an English speaker) academic-sounding ‘craniotomy’.

Doctors speak Greek; lawyers speak Latin.

And yet it's all Greek to most.

Re: What’s the difference between an -ectomy, an -ostomy, and an -otomy? (1986)

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Actually -otomy isn't even -otomy... it's -tomy. For example Craniotomy. Cranio-tomy. cranio = κρανίο (skull) tomy = τομή (cut) And -tomy is just a cut, not cut a hole. To cut a hole you'd have to remove a part. Most of the cuts are straight lines and then the skin just opens up like a hole because of stretching. Then, -ostomy is -stomy. Nephrostomy. Nephro-stomy. Nephro = Νεφρό (Kidney) Stomy = Στόμιο (something tha…

I have to ask: is there a Greek equivalent for "it's all Greek to me"? Edit: I just did an internet search and found you use Chinese or Turkish instead. Never mind me.

Italians use "Arabic"

Re: What’s the difference between an -ectomy, an -ostomy, and an -otomy? (1986)

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I have to ask: is there a Greek equivalent for "it's all Greek to me"? Edit: I just did an internet search and found you use Chinese or Turkish instead. Never mind me.

in German we say "I only understand train station and departure"...

But we use a country name in the sentence: "That seems Spanish to me" (Das kommt mir spanisch vor) although that would 'translate' to "That seems fishy to me"

Re: What’s the difference between an -ectomy, an -ostomy, and an -otomy? (1986)

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in German we say "I only understand train station and departure"...

But we use a country name in the sentence: "That seems Spanish to me" (Das kommt mir spanisch vor) although that would 'translate' to "That seems fishy to me"

loll Spanish people must be very pleased hearing this...
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