I've been waiting to see someone drop a desktop app like they showcased. I wonder how long until it is normal to have an AI looking at your screen the entire time your machine is unlocked. Answering contextual questions and maybe even interjecting if it notices you made a mistake and moved on.
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#92They are admitting[1] that the new model is the gpt2-chatbot that we have seen before[2]. As many highlighted there, the model is not an improvement like GPT3->GPT4. I tested a bunch of programming stuff and it was not that much better. It's interesting that OpenAI is highlighting the Elo score instead of showing results for many many benchmarks that all models are stuck at 50-70% success. [1] https://twitter.com/Lia…
"not that much better" is extremely impressive, because it's a much smaller and much faster model. Don't worry, GPT-5 is coming and it will be better.
And how can one be so sure of that?
Seems to me that performance is converging and we might not see a significant jump until we have another breakthrough.
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#93It is notable OpenAI did not need to carefully rehearse the talking points of the speakers. Or even do the kind of careful production quality seen in a lot of other videos.
The technology product is so good and so advanced it doesn't matter how the people appear.
Zuck tried this in his video countering to vision pro, but it did not have the authentic "not really rehearsed or produced" feel of this at all. If you watch that video and compare it with this you can see the difference.
Very interesting times.
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#94Very impressive demo, but not really a step change in my opinion. The hype from OpenAI employees was on another level, way more than was warranted in my opinion.
Ultimately, the promise of LLM proponents is that these models will get exponentially smarter - this hasn’t born out yet. So from that perspective, this was a disappointing release.
If anything, this feels like a rushed release to match what Google will be demoing tomorrow.
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#95I wonder if this is what the "gpt2-chatbot" that was going around earlier this month was
yes it was
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#96GPT-4 expressing a human-like emotional response every single time you interact with it is pretty annoying.
In general, trying to push that this is a human being is probably "unsafe", but that hurts the marketing.
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#97It might be region specific (I'm in the UK) - but I don't "see" the new model anywhere e.g. if I go to:
https://platform.openai.com/playground/chat?models=gpt-4o
The model the page uses is set to gpt-3.5-turbo-16k.
I'm confused
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#98Big questions are (1) when is this going to be rolled out to paid users? (2) what is the remaining benefit of being a paid user if this is rolled out to free users? (3) Biggest concern is will this degrade the paid experience since GPT-4 interactions are already rate limited. Does OpenAI have the hardware to handle this? Edit: according to @gdb this is coming in "weeks" https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1790074041614717…
thanks, I was confused because the top of the page says to try now when you cannot in fact try it at all
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#99I don't see anything released today. Login/signup is still required, no signs of desktop app or free use on web. What am I missing?
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#100For all the hype around this announcement I was expecting more than some demo-level stuff that close to nobody will use in real life. Disappointing.