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Re: Show HN: AI climbing coach – visualize how to climb any route based on your body

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Post by pierrec »

party_possum wrote: post #42

Climbing route setting (when done at a high level) is constantly in conversation with itself. Many climbers don't realize that there are trends or fads in movement styles that sweep across the industry. This has only picked up steam in an era of social media. Just like movie dorks will happily spend hours explaining how an individual shot in a movie is actually an insider reference to another movie, and as a result a…

You mean AI might be better at setting or at reading? I feel like your question is getting misinterpreted.

Re: Show HN: AI climbing coach – visualize how to climb any route based on your body

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Post by ropable »

I'm genuinely curious how the model classifies holds. I could (hypothetically) see this doing something like assigning more utility to certain holds (e.g. a steep sloper that is impossible to use as a handhold but is can be used as a smearing foothold) and thereby giving bad/implausible beta. That being said, it seems like an obvious shortcoming and I'm very interested in learning more!

Re: Show HN: AI climbing coach – visualize how to climb any route based on your body

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Post by sandworm101 »

lambdaone wrote: post #79
soperj wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What makes rope climbing "real"?

There are lots more variables to consider, particularly in lead climbing, even when you have a bolted route. And trad climbing is even more complex than that.

Trad lead is climbing. Basically everything else is some sort of simulation.

Re: Show HN: AI climbing coach – visualize how to climb any route based on your body

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Post by iosguyryan »

latchkey wrote: post #41

Of course everyone on HN is focused on the climbing / beta / technique aspect of this. It is ok that it is a solution looking for a problem. There is obviously no 'business' or 'product' here. It isn't like there is a payment link on the page or anything. What I'd like to see the comments focus on is that we should just be happy that someone is making the effort to learn more about AI and building tooling around it.…

really good example of the culture of climbing too!

Re: Show HN: AI climbing coach – visualize how to climb any route based on your body

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Post by iosguyryan »

latchkey wrote: post #41

Of course everyone on HN is focused on the climbing / beta / technique aspect of this. It is ok that it is a solution looking for a problem. There is obviously no 'business' or 'product' here. It isn't like there is a payment link on the page or anything. What I'd like to see the comments focus on is that we should just be happy that someone is making the effort to learn more about AI and building tooling around it.…

If I could “yes and” this… route setters could benefit from this tool to simulate layouts against a number of body types and mobility.

Re: Show HN: AI climbing coach – visualize how to climb any route based on your body

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Post by et-al »

sandworm101 wrote: post #94
lambdaone wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are lots more variables to consider, particularly in lead climbing, even when you have a bolted route. And trad climbing is even more complex than that.

Trad lead is climbing. Basically everything else is some sort of simulation.

It's 2024 and some people are gonna gatekeep that if you're not shoving cams in some bigwall granite, it's not climbing?

Re: Show HN: AI climbing coach – visualize how to climb any route based on your body

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Post by 31337Logic »

Temporary_31337 wrote: post #76

I feel like I’m the right audience for this - a not very good climber with unusual distribution of limbs. But I’m not interested - part of the fun in climbing is on sight climbs and solving problems yourself.

Thank you for posting this. :-)

Re: Show HN: AI climbing coach – visualize how to climb any route based on your body

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Post by ungreased0675 »

iosguyryan wrote: post #96
latchkey wrote: post #41

Of course everyone on HN is focused on the climbing / beta / technique aspect of this. It is ok that it is a solution looking for a problem. There is obviously no 'business' or 'product' here. It isn't like there is a payment link on the page or anything. What I'd like to see the comments focus on is that we should just be happy that someone is making the effort to learn more about AI and building tooling around it.…

If I could “yes and” this… route setters could benefit from this tool to simulate layouts against a number of body types and mobility.

Yes, and help setters create more interesting routes. Maybe a layout with multiple ways to solve it, but all the approximate same difficulty?

Re: Show HN: AI climbing coach – visualize how to climb any route based on your body

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Post by latchkey »

iosguyryan wrote: post #96
latchkey wrote: post #41

Of course everyone on HN is focused on the climbing / beta / technique aspect of this. It is ok that it is a solution looking for a problem. There is obviously no 'business' or 'product' here. It isn't like there is a payment link on the page or anything. What I'd like to see the comments focus on is that we should just be happy that someone is making the effort to learn more about AI and building tooling around it.…

If I could “yes and” this… route setters could benefit from this tool to simulate layouts against a number of body types and mobility.

I spent 8 years lead climbing at Mission Cliffs in SF 2-5 days a week (5.12 range was my top). They had excellent route setters there that I spent many hours just watching between climbs.

The route setters would effectively do what you're saying, while they were setting the route. They knew exactly what would work and what wouldn't. The holds/wall are really what dictate things and if you're not able to climb it... it isn't really their problem.

As far as I can tell, while this project is cool, it really has nothing to do with climbing or route setting. It is an AI project where the developer just kind of made up some task and had AI follow it.

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