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Re: 00Key a 75% Keyboard

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Post by drdaeman »

shlubbert wrote: post #84
mmh0000 wrote: post #4

I really do not like these compressed baby keyboards that are missing essential keys. My perfect keyboard would be something like a 150% with standard full layout but then adding in a bunch of programmable macro keys, I want more than F12! I want F1 through F36. Also a built in coffee grinder, water heater, and there should be a fan under the keys to keep my hands cool. Okay, ignore those last three.

Luckily the keyboard enthusiast community has something for everyone: https://mechboards.co.uk/products/hyper-7-v4

I'd wish someday HID standard would include a way for an input device to send arbitrary Unicode codepoints (with a few codes reserved for modifiers) rather than scan codes. The design made sense in PC/XT era, but it feels super dated today.

Re: 00Key a 75% Keyboard

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Post by whereismyacc »

atlas_hugged wrote: post #14
VyseofArcadia wrote: post #6

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I've been wondering for a while now why these fractional keyboards are so popular. It's some sort of trendy faux-minimalism that I've never been able to wrap my head around.

A subset of those is gamers that want the mouse closer to the center, rather than off to the right when using a full keyboard. Especially competitive gamers, because it helps reduce RSI

I'm pretty sure most of the time gamers do this, it's to give the mouse more area so they can lower their sensitivity for higher precision.

You can image search "csgo pro player" to get some idea, they're mostly positioned to be ready to flick their arm when they have to aim.

Though I'll admit that I often turn my keyboard slightly when gaming despite not playing FPS, just for comfort.

Re: 00Key a 75% Keyboard

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Post by luqtas »

digging wrote: post #17
atlas_hugged wrote: post #14

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A subset of those is gamers that want the mouse closer to the center, rather than off to the right when using a full keyboard. Especially competitive gamers, because it helps reduce RSI

> because it helps reduce RSI Really?! I spend so much time on my macbook for work using the trackpad as my primary mouse and it feels horrible for my arms. I could understand t improving APM but on my personal computer I really like having things spread out, it allows me to flex my arms a lot more.

having the arms straight rather than angled inwards (where the trackpad is) also is an ergonomic move...

Re: 00Key a 75% Keyboard

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Post by Pet_Ant »

Arainach wrote: post #53
dyingkneepad wrote: post #21

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I have a keyboard that's "missing" essential keys, but I have a special key that I can press with my thumb that changes that every single key does (it's called a Layer). So I never need to move my wrist to press the arrow keys: just hold the thumb button and press hjkl. Page up is layer+t, page down is layer+g. And so on. It's great, my wrists thank me. I can even program a macro that will trigger an OS shortcut that…

I like keyboards with layers support, but layers aren't a replacement for sufficient keys. Holding down the layer button means another finger unavailable for hotkeys. For instance, on my keyboard (ZSA Moonlander) I have the function keys in an alternate layer. This isn't a problem for a normal press (layer shift + 2 => F2), but it makes pressing something like Ctrl+Shift+F2 rather painful. Yes, for such shortcuts tha…

I have a ZSA Moonlander but it makes me want to make a Dactyl Manuform of some of the larger sizes just for those extra keys.

https://wylderbuilds.com/all-sizes

Re: 00Key a 75% Keyboard

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Post by RDaneel0livaw »

jwells89 wrote: post #18
mmh0000 wrote: post #4

I really do not like these compressed baby keyboards that are missing essential keys. My perfect keyboard would be something like a 150% with standard full layout but then adding in a bunch of programmable macro keys, I want more than F12! I want F1 through F36. Also a built in coffee grinder, water heater, and there should be a fan under the keys to keep my hands cool. Okay, ignore those last three.

What’s “essential” varies a lot between users. As a mobile dev I’ve been using 60% and 65% boards almost exclusively since 2015 and haven’t missed the removed keys much at all. Really though, to me the problem with full-size keyboards isn’t the number of keys but their positioning. The traditional full sized layout was designed prior to mice being common, which immediately becomes evident when you try to center the a…

you're correct there about the southpaws. I wish they would break in! I have two SP111's and they are truly my endgame boards. Had them for years and haven't once had a desire to go look for anything different. Truly perfect for exactly what I want. I feel like a lot of other people as well would love it, if only they could try it. But .... this was a VERY expensive board, and was only available in a limited time group buy. I have no idea if it's even available for purchase right now.

Re: 00Key a 75% Keyboard

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Post by TacticalCoder »

mmh0000 wrote: post #4

I really do not like these compressed baby keyboards that are missing essential keys. My perfect keyboard would be something like a 150% with standard full layout but then adding in a bunch of programmable macro keys, I want more than F12! I want F1 through F36. Also a built in coffee grinder, water heater, and there should be a fan under the keys to keep my hands cool. Okay, ignore those last three.

> My perfect keyboard would be something like a 150% with standard full layout but then adding in a bunch of programmable macro keys, I want more than F12! I want F1 through F36.

Not 36 but I've got one of these IBM Model M clickety clik keyboard with 24 function keys:

https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/9i1aef/24_functio...

But that said: I switched to a 60% HHKB more than a decade ago and I don't regret it. I prefer to use modifiers and less keys than more keys and longer hands / fingers travel.

Maybe you'd like this Wey Tech MK06:

https://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?t=15102

Re: 00Key a 75% Keyboard

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Post by luqtas »

CodeWriter23 wrote: post #39
WesleyLivesay wrote: post #10

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I had exactly the same experience. After using the Ergodox since around 2020 it is hard to see going back to a non-split keyboard. It helps that I also swapped to a trackball at the same time and I find the ergo of having a trackball between a split keyboard to be excellent. Also, having the backspace key as the "home" key for my left thumb has greatly increased my typing speed....I make a lot of mistakes.

I always feel the first thing I would do with a split keyboard is 3D print a baseplate to keep the two halves aligned. Which.might.just.work.

good move... but some rubber like pad at the table make them 99,9% fixed! and dust marks your ideal position that MAY is changed/adjusted slightly after some time spend with the keyboard

Re: 00Key a 75% Keyboard

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Post by luqtas »

kelvie wrote: post #69

I still wonder why there isn't a DIY option that builds in a touchpad or a usable trackball. It's great for bed / home theatre PC (HTPC) use, and some of us are just used to it There are existing keyboards out there, like the logitech K-something for HTPCs, or then niche (and expensive) options that you need to call HP or Lenovo to order, but I'm very close to just buying the bottom of the framework laptop and buildi…

https://ryanis.cool/cosmos/beta

Re: 00Key a 75% Keyboard

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Post by gwbas1c »

I really want a portable full size keyboard: IE, a full size keyboard that comes with a protective case so it's easier to put in a bag. Perhaps the keyboard can break into two pieces so it's easier to fit in a smaller bag?
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