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The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

#91

I'm surprised people are surprised this Rabbit thing is running Android 99.9% of the HW projects that have a modestly complex display/networking need run on Android. It's a no-brainer. OEM the HW from China, even if moderately custom and they can get you something for cheap.

The surprising part isn't that the device is running Android OS, but that the whole thing is a single Android app.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

#92

I'm surprised people are surprised this Rabbit thing is running Android 99.9% of the HW projects that have a modestly complex display/networking need run on Android. It's a no-brainer. OEM the HW from China, even if moderately custom and they can get you something for cheap.

No one is surprised. People are saying that this _could_ be an Android app, and _should_ be an Android app -- and now it's been shown that it _already is_ an Android app.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

#93

I haven't heard anything about the Rabbit R1, what is it supposed to be? Based on the video it looks like this is just Google Assistant except not by Google, what makes it different from a normal phone?

for one, its not a phone (it cant make calls)

https://www.rabbit.tech/

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

#94

I'm surprised people are surprised this Rabbit thing is running Android 99.9% of the HW projects that have a modestly complex display/networking need run on Android. It's a no-brainer. OEM the HW from China, even if moderately custom and they can get you something for cheap.

Android seems to be the go-to choice for most devices requiring a touch screen. You could get away with a lot less in most cases, but why bother when you can just throw together a quick Android app and use some industrial Android ROM to take care of all the hard parts? Everything from portable supermarket self service scanners to TVs has been running Android for ages. Sony has been putting Android on TVs since before Android TV was even a thing.

The only thing Android sucks at is native support for keyboard interaction, anything big screen or touch screen related may as well be presumed Android until proven otherwise.

There's one exception, which is Samsung, who is still pushing Tizen to its products, though their smart watches switched from Tizen to Android not too long ago.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

#95

To be honest, I still don't understand the appeal of this product. I've always got a "one-time quick-cash hustle" video out of it and I can't trust it.

I can't think of a single hyped up pre-order that worked out. Either

* Everyone else can buy it when the pre orders are delivered

* Due to monetary constraints, regular orders are actually shipped before pre-orders

* The device is nothing like it was promised

* The device doesn't exist

The intentions are good (funding without VCs) but I rather the VCs lose money than consumers

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

#97

I haven't heard anything about the Rabbit R1, what is it supposed to be? Based on the video it looks like this is just Google Assistant except not by Google, what makes it different from a normal phone?

It also doubles as a low-range space heater.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

#98

To be honest, I still don't understand the appeal of this product. I've always got a "one-time quick-cash hustle" video out of it and I can't trust it.

It's not a very good cash hustle if people actually use it. From what I can tell, it's a one time $200 payment and you can use the LLM indefinitely. If the device costs $100 to produce and ship that's only $100 left to cover compute... forever.

It seems they want the compute to run on device, but that doesn't seem to be the case right now[0]. I don't know the specs of the device, but pretty sure it'd have to cost more than $200 to run an LLM locally.

edit: 128 gigs of storage and four gigs of RAM. For llama3-8b (the smallest llama3 model) you need at least 8GB of RAM.

0 - https://www.theverge.com/2024/1/18/24043490/rabbit-r1-ai-per...

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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post #87

Doesn't surprise me. In my opinion, many companies try to achieve outrageous premiums by taking the route of teen engineering (the originator of hype). In addition to rabbit, there is also a series of nothing products. This doesn't convince the tech fetishists. In fact, I think te's contribution to music is very limited, even harmful, especially when I see the latest Yamaha even imitating te, which feels a bit funny…

Care to elaborate, for the curious? A quick google on Jesse Lyu doesn't turn up much besides his own hype. Although he does appear to at least be obfuscating the truth, failing to admit that the only reason the "bootleg APK" isn't working is because of an IMEI whitelist.

Update: They've barely tightened up, now the only missing piece is the OS build fingerprint. https://twitter.com/uwukko/status/1785626783900930447/

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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post #89

I'm surprised people are surprised this Rabbit thing is running Android 99.9% of the HW projects that have a modestly complex display/networking need run on Android. It's a no-brainer. OEM the HW from China, even if moderately custom and they can get you something for cheap.

I don't think people (well outside of some clickbait headlines) are surprised it is running Android. But more that it is an app. Personally I figured it was running Android but likely a heavily modified fork. Especially after how many times they seem to have buckled down on it not being possible as just an app. (Unless I am misunderstanding and it is indeed a fork and not just an App? ).

There is no need to get anything more complex than needed; the Rabbit R1 is just an Android phone, pre-installed with only one app, with an action button bound, and that's it.
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