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All Cars Sold in the US Will Soon Have to Be Able to Automatically Avoid a Crash

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Re: All Cars Sold in the US Will Soon Have to Be Able to Automatically Avoid a Crash

#91
post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You haven't driven through Texas. The stretch between El Paso and Dallas is 9 hours and there's almost nothing in-between.

Are all those towns on the way a joke to you?

No, that’s why I said almost nothing :)

Re: All Cars Sold in the US Will Soon Have to Be Able to Automatically Avoid a Crash

#92

Laws to make cars smaller and drive slower will do 100x more to make crashes less deadly than fancy electronic gizmos. Not to mention all these electronics make the car much more expensive and harder to repair.

We need laws for all road-going vehicles to protect pedestrians and strict liability for anyone driving a pedestrian-hostile vehicle.

You want a drive a big lifted truck? You need to be on the hook for the deaths and damages from those monstrosities.

Re: All Cars Sold in the US Will Soon Have to Be Able to Automatically Avoid a Crash

#93

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A law that prevents any FWD vehicle from going over 90 MPH, or offering significant insurance discounts, would go a long way towards reducing fatalities. There is no reason for any casual motorist to be going 91+MPH on surface streets or highways.

Isn't the car already very dangerous at 70 or so? I can't think of a lot of streets where you'd be able to get up to 90 even.

  I actually have to set up a car alert for when I go above 90, because the car is so quiet and powerful that I can easily go above 90 without realizing (obviously on the highway) . 
  New cars have improved tremendously.

Re: All Cars Sold in the US Will Soon Have to Be Able to Automatically Avoid a Crash

#94
post #20

Laws to make cars smaller and drive slower will do 100x more to make crashes less deadly than fancy electronic gizmos. Not to mention all these electronics make the car much more expensive and harder to repair.

The reason cars are so large today is because of safety laws

Only in that massive marketing was done to promote large vehicle classes (both minivans and SUVs) over traditional passenger cars because of loopholes in safety and efficiency laws which made them either exempt or less-constrained by them, and—while some of those laws caught up—the resulting cultural impact was sticky.

Re: All Cars Sold in the US Will Soon Have to Be Able to Automatically Avoid a Crash

#96

Laws to make cars smaller and drive slower will do 100x more to make crashes less deadly than fancy electronic gizmos. Not to mention all these electronics make the car much more expensive and harder to repair.

If people moan about something as basic as AEB, how would you implement automatic speed limit enforcing in cars.

Re: All Cars Sold in the US Will Soon Have to Be Able to Automatically Avoid a Crash

#97
post #7

Article says, > Unsurprisingly, automakers are unsure whether this is possible I'm in the same camp. I don't think technology will become mature enough in the stated timeline to make sure this is actually possible without creating a huge ton of false positive triggers (phantom braking).

Except it's already been the law in Europe since 2022.

Automakers can and will make AEB.

Re: All Cars Sold in the US Will Soon Have to Be Able to Automatically Avoid a Crash

#98

The problem is it requires a computer, and no one but no one will sell you a car where you get to control the computer, and without a net connection back to servers you also don't get to control or opt out of or even audit.

That's largely true already.

Re: All Cars Sold in the US Will Soon Have to Be Able to Automatically Avoid a Crash

#100
post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A law that prevents any FWD vehicle from going over 90 MPH, or offering significant insurance discounts, would go a long way towards reducing fatalities. There is no reason for any casual motorist to be going 91+MPH on surface streets or highways.

Also prevent tailgating (have a minimum follow distance to car ahead based on speed, and auto-brake to match that minimum distance) and prevent going faster than the lane to your left while they are at it. The minimum follow distance alone would prevent a LOT of crashes.

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