Ozempic will disrupt big tobacco, candy companies, and alcohol brands

Post by mrtesthah » Sun, Apr 28, 2024, 9:04 PM UTC

Ygg2 wrote: post #62

jakub_g wrote: post #15

Re: "mounting concern" about the profits of processed food & tobacco companies, here you are also the 2018 classic of the genre: > Goldman Sachs asks in biotech research report: ‘Is curing patients a sustainable business model?’ https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/11/goldman-asks-is-curing-patie...

Can't wait for 2034 Goldman Sachs report: "Can we sell cocaine to toddlers?", "Can we re-lead the water? People are too smart anyway"

Post by JumpCrisscross » Sun, Apr 28, 2024, 9:04 PM UTC

spirit557 wrote: post #85

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #53

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> absurd to me the world has come to the point that we need these drugs in the first place GLP-1 looks increasingly like a miracle drug. We see problems of addiction and obesity skyrocketing across the developing world. It’s not cost free, but it’s a hell of a lot better than the majority of America, China and India becoming potatoes. When vitamins were discovered, there was similar moralising about there being no fr…

Reversing type 2 diabetes naturally is not scientifically unfounded at all. Look online in the right places and there is tons of people that have been able to stop taking all their insulin and metformin etc by fasting, compressing feeding windows, cutting out all carbs. Even the ADA had to finally acknowledge this is possible in a statement back in 2021: https://diabetes.org/newsroom/international-experts-outline-...…

Post by Eisenstein » Sun, Apr 28, 2024, 9:05 PM UTC

nickff wrote: post #69

cmdli wrote: post #14

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For many (most?) drugs, the actual cost to produce the drug is usually far less than the selling price as it is an enforced monopoly. Given that monopoly, price restrictions don't actually restrict supply as the single supplier will still try to sell as much as they can to make as much as they can.

It probably wouldn’t have much of an impact on the sales or marketing of this product, but it’d definitely have significant impacts on drug manufacturers’ future plans (by reducing expected ROI & discouraging the development of ‘marginal drugs’).

Post by abruzzi » Sun, Apr 28, 2024, 9:06 PM UTC

jncfhnb wrote: post #73

raziel2701 wrote: post #17

Ozempic costs $1000/month (in the US) but $5/month to manufacture [0]. I think if this drug and others are to have a significant anti-consumption effect on other companies it needs to be vastly more accessible, which first requires more accessible healthcare in the US, which is unlikely to happen. Also it's an injection, which raises the barrier. If drugs like these become orally administered and over-the-counter, th…

I’m reminded of the bit in 1984 where they’re trying to remove the pleasure from orgasms. I don’t entirely disagree that this would be good to make accessible but removing the joy from eating is so bleak

Post by spirit557 » Sun, Apr 28, 2024, 9:07 PM UTC

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #53

spirit557 wrote: post #36

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You cant take these drugs forever afaik. Do they have permanent effects? It's just absurd to me the world has come to the point that we need these drugs in the first place but it makes total sense when you look at America for example. Awash in hyperpalatable processed "food" and corrupt food guidelines, a medical industry that "manages" chronic metabolic preventable disease but never cures it when probably 99% of cas…

> absurd to me the world has come to the point that we need these drugs in the first place GLP-1 looks increasingly like a miracle drug. We see problems of addiction and obesity skyrocketing across the developing world. It’s not cost free, but it’s a hell of a lot better than the majority of America, China and India becoming potatoes. When vitamins were discovered, there was similar moralising about there being no fr…