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Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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Post by dash2 »

aprilthird2021 wrote: post #60
anyfactor wrote: post #56

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Thank you very much. I feel like engineering innovation has been concentrated on technology and not in defense engineering at all. Immigrants have helped a lot in building the tech sector's innovation in the last half of the century. But the defense industry often requires naturalized citizens to work on these projects. I think there is a difference between immigrants coming to North America to work and eventually se…

Innovation has not been in defense engineering lately because the US has lost A LOT of public trust when it comes to the defense industry in the wake of Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan. The US is not the country, nor do they have the reputation in front of the public that led to the Manhattan project, where the greatest minds would willingly work on defense projects, not just willingly but eagerly. The breakthroughs a…

I think you’re probably right, and to those who share that anti-US government sentiment here, I’d like to say: “wake up”! If you think the US is bad, wait till you try Russia or China. I have three refugees in my house. They may never now return home.

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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Post by nbzso »

The problem you have, dear Americans is called MIC. Just quoting one of your presidents: >“In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.”

So many wars for profit. History knows best that there is no free lunch. But I suppose consuming propaganda without a critical thinking and effort for facts is good for the business. By the way Zala Aero is the current leader in this space. That's why Ukrainian counteroffensive was a failure.

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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Post by mongol »

matthewmacleod wrote: post #86
ranger_danger wrote: post #52

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Honestly I think military is just a scapegoat for these people, their real mission (like many before them) seems to be using the lack of CoC acceptance as their own weapon to justify bullying them for having opinions they don't like. That has always been the MO. They want the CoC to be able to silence undesired speech in the first place, and if they refuse, it becomes their strawman to allow them to keep arguing the…

I think it’s entirely valid for a community to decide they don’t want participation and funding from a defence contractor. That isn’t a scapegoat - it’s the actual goal. You may or may not agree with this stance and that is totally fine. You’re still free to use the software for whatever you want; you can also go ahead and fork it, or create a new community endorsing this use. If enough people agree then it will thri…

The problem is, there is not a community that is in agreement about this. There is a subset of the community, that like to pretend they are and speak for "the community", and when they get pushback from those that disagree they call it concern-trolling.

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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Post by wavefunction »

nbzso wrote: post #92

The problem you have, dear Americans is called MIC. Just quoting one of your presidents: >“In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.” So many wars for profit. History knows best that there is no free lunch. But I suppose…

What a smug greasy post. I can't tell if you're in favor of MIC or not, what a failure on your part.

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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Post by mongol »

4gotunameagain wrote: post #76
jagger27 wrote: post #75

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The objectives of a land grabbing tyrant are what’s objective. You can’t be serious.

As you might be aware, which I cannot be certain of given your insubstantial reply, international geopolitics are usually a bit more nuanced than an aggressive "land grabbing tyrant".

There is not any meaningful nuance to apply here. In February 2022 Russia launced a full scale military attack on a soverign neighbouring country. Ukraine defends itself with western military weapons. That is clear use of defense and no "nuance" changes that.

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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Post by neonsunset »

klausa wrote: post #10
geor9e wrote: post #6

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That term isn't in the article, and it's Wikipedia page doesn't have anything about military. It just says it's a Linux distro. I'm out of the loop.

Anduril was supposed to be a sponsor for a Nix conference; it was then dropped after community reacted negatively to having a weapons manufacturer being a sponsor. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37418351

"Outraged community" were about 30 people with few to no project contributions but a lot of political slogans and of likely questionable state of mind.

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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Post by 1oooqooq »

nbzso wrote: post #92

The problem you have, dear Americans is called MIC. Just quoting one of your presidents: >“In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.” So many wars for profit. History knows best that there is no free lunch. But I suppose…

> zala aero

I'm not following the war but thanks to your comment just read about them.

They are a subunit of Kalashnikov and the latest drone uses PET bottles for fuel tank and a plywood fuselage and a banal model airplane engine found at hobby shops.

It's almost like some 90s game designer is writing the plot for this.

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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Post by luma »

bugbuddy wrote: post #24
bglazer wrote: post #12

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Their website says .95 Mach and 9Gs… in simulation. It’s definitely going to be high powered.

What kind of airframe materials will they need for 9Gs? That sounds like too much for even aerospace Titanium.

The major failure point in a 9G-capable airframe is the meatbag that is traditionally placed inside.

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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Post by bandrami »

blackeyeblitzar wrote: post #13

Why General Atomics? They are also yet another defense incumbent that needs to be disrupted. They make the Predator and other current UAVs, which are all expensive and uninteresting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Atomics_Aeronautical_S... In general I think the government needs to move contracts away from older companies and fund young innovative ones. Partnerships between young and old simply sustain the inc…

DoD wants a high level of confidence that your company will still be around and delivering the exact same product to the exact same specs 20 years from now. It's why startups are basically never the primes on defense acquisitions.
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