"Google is paninicking and chasing the latest buzzword" would be a more descriptive title
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's the situation NOW, but it can certainly change in the future. Work with Google as a hardware vendor, grow the Android market with them, and eventually they don't need you and cut you out. It happens.
An american company is never going to be able to produce phones as cheaply as a korean or a chinese company.
Let me assure you, Apple is capable to produce a cheaper device than any other smartphone vendor in the world today.
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> The person can run two threads in their brain, one that deals with Samsung and one that deals with the internal product. There's a reason we don't make a police chief investigate their own misconduct. "It's a perfectly OK thing to do. The person is just the host hardware. There can be multiple threads running on that hardware at the same time. They can run two threads in their brain, one that deals with investigati…
If there's accusation of misconduct, there's a bug in the system so you isolate it and investigate it from the outside. There's no investigation happening here, just two happy parties trying to create great products that can both be successful and be even happier. Lawyers can stay out of this happiness, inventing and injecting "conflicts" that never existed in the first place.
> If there's accusation of misconduct, there's a bug in the system so you isolate it and investigate it from the outside.
Why should the investigation be from the outside?
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honestly, it seems like every phone has its broken quirks. I recently switched from iphone to android and there's still a random collection of everyday things I do that are simply... broken. Maybe these devices have become so complicated they're simply too challenging to work out all of the edge cases out of. New features are easier.
Not to mention all the Google shit on Android is just constantly harassing you. LOOK HERE, LOOK THERE, SET UP THIS, SET UP THAT, TURN THIS ON, TURN THAT ON, GIVE US FEEDBACK, SYNC NOW, SIGN IN TO GOOGLE, LET US SCAN YOUR PHONE FOR YOUR SAFETY, SIGN IN FOR SECURITY, SYNC YOUR PHOTOS, SYNC YOUR DRIVE, USE AI FOR THIS, HERES HOW YOU DO THIS THING BECAUSE ITS NOT OBVIOUS AND WE SUCK AT UI, GET UPDATES, WE DISABLED PERMIS…
Harassment as a service. That comes from the advertising mindset..
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#96I guess it makes them more like Apple, having a vertically integrated division for making phones. TFA says it might make other phone manufacturers struggle. Although I get the impression they are already struggling with the Open Handset Alliance terms from Google that they don't like. Maybe the best outcome is that AOSP gets multiple active forks supported by manufacturers, Google apps stop being distributed by defau…
Forks supported by manufacturers don't work, because they only earn money when selling hardware. So they can't each operate a huge platform maintenance team on their own.
Also, the only glue that actually holds Android in place as a single platform is Google's CTS (compatibility test suite).
Without it being mandated for Googles Mobile Services (GMS) and its revenue-share, Android will stop being a single platform.
It will start drifting apart as soon as all vendors have to implement the next display/camera/sensor/form-factor support in the OS in parallel of each other...
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#97It seems like Google didn't learn the lesson from Google+ and is going to do another fear-driven reorg.
Google cannot learn that kind of lesson, the people who were in Google+ are probably long gone from Google for greener pastures most likely. Second, google is an amorphous giant with no other goals than increase market share, no wonder their products are terrible. But still, with all this in mind, we should remember that great things go come from google, it's just that they're not capable of capitalizing on them.
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#98> Under Rick Osterloh, a new platforms and devices team will be dedicated to bringing AI to your phone, your TV, and everything else that runs Android. Who is asking for this? Why can't they just make their search engine work again?
I can't help feeling that Google is trying hard to turn itself into the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation.
Share and enjoy!
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The first priority for Android is competing against iPhone. Any self-dealing to get Pixel to have more of the Android pie would be far down the list, and probably counter-productive. It was already possible under the previous structure anyway.
Correct, and it's clear that this isn't an outdated strategy from Google, just in the current cycle we saw Circle to Search launch on both Galaxy and Pixel, and most of the new AI stuff that differentiates Pixel is now coming to Galaxy as well. This might be a headscratcher if you think Google is trying to make Pixel the dominant Android phone, but that's not it. Google wants Android to be the dominant phone OS, and…
>as high as 80-90% of young people choosing iPhone
It's not really choosing, it's more like being handed over form parents or being force to due to iMessage network effect with teens in the US. Which teens wants to choose to be left out of group conversations?
As an adult you can give fewer fucks about normie conformism, bubble colors and people being petty over it, but as a teen it would be a death sentence for your social life. Hence why the regulatory bodies are starting to twist Apple's arm over it.
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An american company is never going to be able to produce phones as cheaply as a korean or a chinese company.
Let me assure you, Apple is capable to produce a cheaper device than any other smartphone vendor in the world today.
In concert with Foxconn and others.