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Re: TwitchAdSolutions – Blocking Twitch Ads

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Post by ktosobcy »

leetharris wrote: post #61

Why don't people just pay the $10/month if you consume enough for ads to annoy you? I really don't get the extreme amount of effort people put into adblocking for services that have a paid alternative. People have this expectation of all these internet services being free which is wild to me. It costs an enormous amount of bandwidth to run Twitch. It is still not profitable because it's such a hard business model to…

Not everyone lives in the US (so 10$ can be quite high). Not everyone likes the service but there are no alternatives to the service and quite often we live in monopolies... like for vide YT has virtual monopoly and I prefer to support content creators directly but not google itself (let's be honest, YT is monopoly only because of shady google practices… and G itself bought YT because they couldn't compete with it... and it should have never been allowed in the first place…)

Re: TwitchAdSolutions – Blocking Twitch Ads

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Post by finnthehuman »

nerdjon wrote: post #57
cooper_ganglia wrote: post #3

I hate how Twitch puts over a minute of pre-roll ads before you can start watching a stream. They should at least wait 60 seconds, I can't imagine how many people have chosen not to catch a new stream because they'd immediately have to sit through over a minute of ads before even getting to any content.

As a viewer I disagree, I would much rather sit and wait 60 seconds in the beginning than to start watching something just for my stream to randomly be stopped for an ad. Since it's live, it isn't like the video will just pick back up where you were. I realize ads could still play during, but if we could make it only in the beginning (or the streamer could say, I am taking a break and trigger an ad, that would be bet…

Also they don’t have a player that can move between live and VOD like YouTube’s. If it were easier to jump back to before the ad and play at 1.25 until you catch up it’d probably be less annoying to the users.

Re: TwitchAdSolutions – Blocking Twitch Ads

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Post by bm3719 »

TechSquidTV wrote: post #71
leetharris wrote: post #61

Why don't people just pay the $10/month if you consume enough for ads to annoy you? I really don't get the extreme amount of effort people put into adblocking for services that have a paid alternative. People have this expectation of all these internet services being free which is wild to me. It costs an enormous amount of bandwidth to run Twitch. It is still not profitable because it's such a hard business model to…

People are entitled and constantly fed rhetoric online that it is morally acceptable to steal by blocking ads. As a YouTube content creator, who makes educational tech videos, I have seen my share of complaints because I dare to take a sponsorship. People simply do not assign value to digital goods, they are seen as free by default.

I do this because I have to protect my brain from marketers that are working against my financial interests, time management goals, and general mental hygiene. If I'm searching for, like in your case, tech info, it's because I want a solution to a problem that has nothing to do with getting sold crappy VPN services or mobile games.

We could have a decentralized and open medium for global information exchange. Instead, the web is a cesspool, and a large part of why is because we've commercialized everything.

Re: TwitchAdSolutions – Blocking Twitch Ads

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Post by RheingoldRiver »

JohnMakin wrote: post #56
wnevets wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Maybe I'll go to tiktok. TikTok is probably the worst one to make money from adverts.

I don't drive income from this other than what I can do to declare writeoffs on my taxes - I just want to provide a better experience for my viewers. It's objectively miserable watching twitch streams without adblockers.

If you are primarily trying to provide quality content for a few long-time viewers, you could try a discord stage channel. It'll destroy your discoverability, but for people who are already there, it's probably the best streaming platform there is atm

Re: TwitchAdSolutions – Blocking Twitch Ads

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Post by gyudin »

leetharris wrote: post #61

Why don't people just pay the $10/month if you consume enough for ads to annoy you? I really don't get the extreme amount of effort people put into adblocking for services that have a paid alternative. People have this expectation of all these internet services being free which is wild to me. It costs an enormous amount of bandwidth to run Twitch. It is still not profitable because it's such a hard business model to…

I’m already paying for a bunch of subscriptions on Twitch. Why am I expected to pay another $10 to block ads. Bittorent created a p2p streaming technology like 5 years ago.

Re: TwitchAdSolutions – Blocking Twitch Ads

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Post by Domenic_S »

haunter wrote: post #21

The vaft script with Ublock Origin works for me really well There is Twitch Turbo but it's 3x more expensive than Youtube Premium and doesn't really have any special benefits. But hey Bezos might need a new yacht so guess the price is justified. https://www.twitch.tv/turbo

What country? I'm seeing $12/mo for turbo and $14/mo for YT Premium

Re: TwitchAdSolutions – Blocking Twitch Ads

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Post by hkwerf »

aendruk wrote: post #89
hkwerf wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it? Maybe twitch could make the terms more easier to understand. As it stands, it's a wall of text, almost nobody will consider. At first glance, I don't see any clause similar to what you suggest.

It’s clearly the intended exchange. It doesn’t have to be literally in the legal “terms” to affect your assessment of fairness. I don’t tolerate ads; I don’t choose ad-supported services.

Yes, you are of course right. The comment was maybe a bit too passive aggressive. Sorry about that. There are more things to consider than just the terms of service and a moral or implied obligation of course extends past twitch and amazon to the content creators.

I wanted to point a bit toward the moral failings of the service providers themselves, which are many, in regards to ads and, in particular, tracking.

Re: TwitchAdSolutions – Blocking Twitch Ads

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Post by lemoncookiechip »

leetharris wrote: post #61

Why don't people just pay the $10/month if you consume enough for ads to annoy you? I really don't get the extreme amount of effort people put into adblocking for services that have a paid alternative. People have this expectation of all these internet services being free which is wild to me. It costs an enormous amount of bandwidth to run Twitch. It is still not profitable because it's such a hard business model to…

Because the plan is $11.99/Month for something I could get for free. All the other benefits (Chat Badge, Custom Username, More Emotes...) are irrelevant for me personally. I'd maybe pay $4.99/Month for no ads, but I'm not paying $12.

If Discord can offer me a Nitro and Nitro Basic, where the Basic plan pretty much has all the features I need for less than half the price 2.99 vs 9.99, so can they offer me a plan for just ad blocking, which is the main feature people want in the first place, either that, or they offer me something else that justifies me having to pay a premium for something I can get for free.

Not to mention that like many other people, I'm already indirectly supporting them through other means such as donations to specific streamers which they take a high cut of.

TL:DR: $12 is a lot of money for what they offer when I already support the people I watch and they siphon from that.

Re: TwitchAdSolutions – Blocking Twitch Ads

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Post by koube »

bm3719 wrote: post #93
TechSquidTV wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People are entitled and constantly fed rhetoric online that it is morally acceptable to steal by blocking ads. As a YouTube content creator, who makes educational tech videos, I have seen my share of complaints because I dare to take a sponsorship. People simply do not assign value to digital goods, they are seen as free by default.

I do this because I have to protect my brain from marketers that are working against my financial interests, time management goals, and general mental hygiene. If I'm searching for, like in your case, tech info, it's because I want a solution to a problem that has nothing to do with getting sold crappy VPN services or mobile games. We could have a decentralized and open medium for global information exchange. Instead…

Sundar has made the case before which I think is pretty good point: The open web is basically an ads driven model. Without ads the open web would be very different.

(Opinions are my own.)

The alternative is paywalls everywhere, or existing on donations. Try reading the Atlantic/NYT today and see you like the ad free model. Or try lemmy if you want to see the donation model.

Hacker news is based around tech and entrepreneurship still yes? What is the current audience that drives the upvote consensus that everything needs to be free AND ad-free?

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