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For now? I am pretty sure that at one point China was an ally and Japan an enemy. I think.
Yeah but times are very different than the past. Today, Japan is one of our greatest allies in the region and their economy depends heavily on the US. The US is Japan's #1 trade partner and a lot of their industries are heavily involved in the US. For them to become an enemy of the of the US would probably kill their economy.
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So why aren’t you all screaming about those as much as you scream about TikTok
Normal adults can care about more than one thing at a time and it is not mandatory or necessary to talk about every problem every time. Why aren't you screaming about the various genocides and wars? Why aren't you screaming about every single injustice in the world all the time?
That ain’t normal. That’s a hypocritical vendetta.
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So why aren’t you all screaming about those as much as you scream about TikTok
Normal adults can care about more than one thing at a time and it is not mandatory or necessary to talk about every problem every time. Why aren't you screaming about the various genocides and wars? Why aren't you screaming about every single injustice in the world all the time?
ITT Software Engineers who think that US Steel is the only US steel manufacturer because of the name. Nucor is bigger and better. You guys always want to prop up failing companies when we have better alternatives right here. Christ, we'd have an annual bailout for IBM's laptops to keep them from selling to Lenovo. I can just imagine: "All tech companies must buy Thinkpads. The government will give $20b to IBM to cont…
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There's more reason than that for Western hostility to China, not least of which is that it is an authoritarian regime with aggressive expansionist goals. Let's also not forget the reciprocity of the hostilities.
> aggressive expansionist goals Like reintegrating Taiwan and HK? Anything else? Tibet I guess? I thought China was generally satisfied with its borders, except for areas it feels were split off due to external interference.
Russia similarly feels Ukraine was split off due to "external interference". Makes the claim no more legitimate.
But also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_imperialism
It's ironic. In 90s U.S. purposefully sabotaged Japanese chip industry with tariffs and other coercive measures. Today, a Japanese company buys out a poster-child of American industrial capacity.
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Japan is littered in American military bases and personnel. It is practically a territory with a fig leaf of domestic policy self determination.
Except the yen is the third most traded currency globally and Japan has the 4th largest economy in the world. It's true that their military strategic position is heavily dependent on the alliance with the US, but they performed exceptionally well with their 'fig leaf' of 'self determination.'
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There's more reason than that for Western hostility to China, not least of which is that it is an authoritarian regime with aggressive expansionist goals. Let's also not forget the reciprocity of the hostilities.
> aggressive expansionist goals Like reintegrating Taiwan and HK? Anything else? Tibet I guess? I thought China was generally satisfied with its borders, except for areas it feels were split off due to external interference.
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There's more reason than that for Western hostility to China, not least of which is that it is an authoritarian regime with aggressive expansionist goals. Let's also not forget the reciprocity of the hostilities.
> aggressive expansionist goals Like reintegrating Taiwan and HK? Anything else? Tibet I guess? I thought China was generally satisfied with its borders, except for areas it feels were split off due to external interference.
China has also been proactively setting up claims to various exclaves around the world, primarily in the Indian Ocean and Africa. They've set up various "debt traps" where they lend money to build infrastructure like ports to nations that have no serious chance at repaying the loans, and should they default then China receives control. Additionally China is pursuing traditional overseas military bases in Burma, Cuba, Equatorial Guinea, Pakistan, Seychelles, Sri Lanka, Tajikistan, Tanzania, and the UAE, in addition to bases it already has in Djibouti and Cambodia. Such bases are not in and of themselves expansionist, and probably are more about keeping vital trade links open, but increased ability to project power would be a pre-requisite for any expansionist goals in those regions.
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Perhaps you are forgetting WWII, when China was a main member of a group which literally called themselves "The Allies" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Policemen
Calling yourself "the allies" doesn't make you long term allies. It was just a group with a common enemy for short a time. Take Stalin, also part of "the Allies", he had invaded Poland together with Hitler and also invaded Finland. Couple of years later he was fighting Hitler because he got stabbed in the back by Hitler. And after WWII the west got into the coldwar with Stalin.
The original claim was literally "China has never been a western ally". GP pointed out a counter example during WWII. Your response seems to be against a strawman argument...